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#1
If you're not going to read this wall, GTFO.

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"What is loli?", you ask? Well, here's a definition.
Japanese term for Lolita, which means young, pre-teen girls.

"Isn't this child pr0n?", you ask?
No. This particularly pertains to anime and manga, cartoons and comics in Japan respectively. There aren't really any children involve, just drawings.

"You watch this sh!t?", you ask?
No, not in porn, but I do find an interesting discussion to start up about it though.

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Recently there's been a big move in banning lolis out of adult media in Japan. What do I find wrong with this? Well, most of people argue over loli in a sense of what is morally right and wrong. Then where does that put killing people? In movies, games, comics, cartoons, TV shows, etc. people are killed by the masses. Despite this, people don't quite really give a care about it.

"Oh, that guy's a mass serial killer? K, cool. That is awesome."

That's a general mentality of the general population's view. Is it wrong to have fictional lil' kids doing the nasty when you have popular fictional characters wiping out humanity by the hundreds or more? Morally ****ed right?

"But ****ing a lil kid is psychologically devastating!", some will say.

Well, these kids aren't real.

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But isn't killing people just as wrong? Isn't it bad for family and friends to see their loved ones die or know about their death? Isn't it mentally mind****ing when soldiers have to live through those wars? Both sides, the killer and the killee, are affected through this, yet war games, movies, shows, etc. are so popular? And not really just war games in general either.

"But this sort of things encourages that sort of behavior!", others will say.

Well, this type of discussion has been discussed to death over many things, killing in games, movies, etc. in particular.


An interesting thing about the article I stumbled upon was that the fact they noted was that Christianity was the main driving force behind it.

Now, I'm not sure what it says about people when we're more concerned about drawings than real life. Yeah, child pr0n is a big defacto but that's already being looked over rigorously. Why isn't killing looked or viewed as closely in the media then? Yes, it is filtered and they are rated but then does that really eliminate it like it would banning loli? So I guess it's okay for older people to kill?

Both are wrong in their own sense in real life but lolis seem to take much harder criticism than killing.

Something is wrong with this correlation my friends. Why is that so?


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Now, some of you might've seen this thread breifly appear earlier... posted by Shredoftheday...
I let a few people read over it before posting and he, for some reason, posted it.

I put him in his place though...
He's 13 yrs old or something.
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#4
Pornographic images always take precedent over violence, at least in north america. I don't know about japan.

For some reason parents tend to think it will mess up there kids more if they see a penis inserted into a vagina, as opposed to a man getting his arm blown off.
#5
Loli isn't wrong...
It's fictional, and drawn, no one is being hurt, so it's not wrong.

I don't dig it, but I don't want it banned.

Why is it wrong?
#6
I have no idea what the real logic is behind this.

But, I don't see why banning fake characters is necessary just because they're pre-teen.
#8
It's banned for the same reason child porn is really banned. Child porn *should* be banned because it exploits children, but loli exploits no one. But it is still often used to allow wannabe child molesters to masturbate. Oh well.
#9
honestly if it wasn't against the law, who wouldn't marry and bang some 14 year old hottie?
i mean gorge Washington did it.
i mean alot of young girls are hot, would never hit it because its against the law.
but hell the girls are horny, its natural.
#11
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#12
Quote by sporkman7
Ok, im loving your sig, but YOUVE GOTTA STOP WITH THE PINK TEXT


Sorry, it's my thing.
#13
Quote by captaincrunk
It's banned for the same reason child porn is really banned. Child porn *should* be banned because it exploits children, but loli exploits no one. But it is still often used to allow wannabe child molesters to masturbate. Oh well.


Yeah, exactly, if anything, it's GOOD because it provides an experience for people who are aroused by children to get their jollies off without anyone being hurt.
#14
Quote by captaincrunk
It's banned for the same reason child porn is really banned. Child porn *should* be banned because it exploits children, but loli exploits no one. But it is still often used to allow wannabe child molesters to masturbate. Oh well.

Those molesters are going to masturbate anyway, and it's better to have the drawn stuff for them, then to have them out hunting real child porn.
Quote by levi.lydat
honestly if it wasn't against the law, who wouldn't marry and bang some 14 year old hottie?
i mean gorge Washington did it.
i mean alot of young girls are hot, would never hit it because its against the law.
but hell the girls are horny, its natural.

Not sure what this has to do with loli. What with loli being drawn and not real and all.
Ka pu te ruha ka hao te rangatahi.
#16
Not sure what this has to do with loli. What with loli being drawn and not real and all.


i mean i think its okay, no harm done.
#18
Quote by MrDURPEEDURP
I have no idea what the real logic is behind this.

But, I don't see why banning fake characters is necessary just because they're pre-teen.

Exactly. As Levi here would know- this particular character:

is 18~yet she has the appearance like a 9 year old So as long as loli-hentai artists specify that the characters legal, then the loli-hentai is legal
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#19
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Those molesters are going to masturbate anyway, and it's better to have the drawn stuff for them, then to have them out hunting real child porn.

Not sure what this has to do with loli. What with loli being drawn and not real and all.


I'm more concerned that anybody would sit and say, "I think I'll draw a gang bang scene...with four-year-olds!"
#20
Quote by Shredoftheday
Exactly. As Levi here would know- this particular character:

is 18~yet she has the appearance like a 9 year old So as long as loli-hentai artists specify that the characters legal, then the loli-hentai is legal

Same thing with real 18 year olds who look 12...
#21
Quote by Shredoftheday

is 18~yet she has the appearance like a 9 year old So as long as loli-hentai artists specify that the characters legal, then the loli-hentai is legal

its not fair that Konata can't get it on just because she's underdeveloped...


a lot
#23
Quote by blackthought
I'm more concerned that anybody would sit and say, "I think I'll draw a gang bang scene...with four-year-olds!"


yeah I don't see what's the problem with this...



or this...






and that's a lil' kid's show for ****'s sake!
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#24
Quote by Shredoftheday
Exactly. As Levi here would know- this particular character:

is 18~yet she has the appearance like a 9 year old So as long as loli-hentai artists specify that the characters legal, then the loli-hentai is legal


Well cartoons are not really my thing.
but hey whatever floats peoples boats.
the crazy vine rape porn is pretty funny though.
#26
Quote by Momentosis
yeah I don't see what's the problem with this...

*img*

or this...
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and that's a lil' kid's show for ****'s sake!


I see no small children involved in sex acts. I see no children at all, actually.
#28
Quote by original=punk
Loli isn't wrong...
It's fictional, and drawn, no one is being hurt, so it's not wrong.

I don't dig it, but I don't want it banned.

Why is it wrong?


I agree with this statement.
#29
Quote by blackthought
I see no small children involved in sex acts. I see no children at all, actually.


It's the fact that we have Donald imagining ways to kill a cub on kid's TV.

I guess that's perfectly normal eh?

For little kids to kill little animals/people eh?


wha?
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Quote by CrossBack7
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#31
Quote by blackthought
I see no small children involved in sex acts. I see no children at all, actually.

But the show itself is for children. Which I would say is worse than drawn sex scenes with underage people in it that's marketed for adults. And normally young adults at that.
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#33
Quote by blackthought
I see no small children involved in sex acts. I see no children at all, actually.


Yeah, I see an innocent creature being killed. On a kids show. Seems perfectly fine.
#34
Quote by Momentosis
It's the fact that we have Donald imagining ways to kill a cub on kid's TV.

I guess that's perfectly normal eh?

For little kids to kill little animals/people eh?


wha?

The thing is, although Death/Killing is a lot sadder, it's not as damn awkward as explaining sex to a kid
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#36
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Yeah, I see an innocent creature being killed. On a kids show. Seems perfectly fine.


OK, so they're both "bad". I still think your comparison is flawed, but I'll cede the point.

I think this is one of the issues where we're never going to see eye to eye, so I'll just say "chacun son goût".
#39
I had this exact argument with a friend of mine about a year ago. I believe in the UK they're trying to ban all drawn porn (Cartoons, Hentai, Lolis) based on the fact that because the characters are fictional, you can't determine their age.

They're trying to make merely being a pedophile (something that is NOT a choice, just like being gay or bi) illegal. While I agree when pedophiles act out on their sexuality has extremely negative consequences, and should not be taken lightly.

But now I pose a question: Say a pedophile, who has a certain degree of self control, simply masturbates to Loli. This has no negative consequences, that characters are fictional & can't be harmed, & the pedophile gets to fap.

Now what happens when the Pedophile can't just fap to drawn children, lolicon etc. & has no other way to satiate his urges?

Raaaaaaaaaaaaape. (possibly)

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#40
Quote by Shredoftheday
The thing is, although Death/Killing is a lot sadder, it's not as damn awkward as explaining sex to a kid


True as that may be, there's the undermining principle that taking something's life for no reason is not right. I'm sure that just because society deems violence more tolerable than sex, doesn't mean violence is actually right.

I think I've gone slightly off-topic. xD