#1
So i just got a bass head and bought a cab for 200 bucks. the thing has awesome cleans but no dirty channel, and my sd-1 isnt getting me good enough distortion. im playing a schecter c-1 elite so far ive been looking at the ehx metal muff with top boost, the mxr distortion 3 , the mxr fullbore metal, and the boss metal zone. which one do you think is the best for metallica and other 80s type metal
Guitars
Schecter C-1 Elite (Seymour Duncan JB/59 set)
Ibanez PF15ECE
Custom EVH strat (Dimarzio Super Distortion)
Amps
Peavey Vypyr 15
Acoustic 220 Head
B-52 Cab
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Boss SD-1
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Boss CE-3
Dunlop Crybaby Wah
#2
i have the metal zone, and i love it. try out the pedals if you can and see which has more of what you r looking for.
#3
I have a Digitech Metal Master and it's very good. I don't use it anymore though.
#4
if u have ears you'll realize how bad the boss and mxr are

go with the metal muff
#5
Quote by 1jack369
if u have ears you'll realize how bad the boss and mxr are

go with the metal muff

the fullbore IS better than the MM IMO..
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#7
I have a MM w/top boost for sale for $50. PM me if interested.
#8
Quote by 1jack369
nah thats just the gate talking lol

i tried both dude.......

and BTW ts, if you have a budget of 120-150 look at AMT pedals
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#9
Either the Metal Muff or the MXR Fullbore in your budget.
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the fullbore IS better than the MM IMO..

Time for a hearing test, son. The Fullbore is godawful.

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#13
If you cant find a used Tech 21 GT2, go with the Metal Muff or Hardwire, though Im not a huge fan of either.

Depending on the kind of 80s metal youre talking about, an MI Audio Crunch Box may fit as well.
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#14
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try hardwire TL-2 Metal distortion


+1! I live for Hardwire...great pedals/
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#15
Stay away from the metal zone, it is noisy and takes away any dynamics in your guitar, amp or technique.
#16
does TS mean a bassMAN head or like just a bass guitar head or what??

anyway id go with a blackstar dist x

or maybe if its tube/valve u could just get TS9/TS808 maybs
#17
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Time for a hearing test, son. The Fullbore is godawful.

i HATED the MM, its muddy and uncontrollably fizzy .

im not saying the Fullbore is the best.im just saying its better than the muff but it still doesnt match the TL-2
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i HATED the MM, its muddy and uncontrollably fizzy .

im not saying the Fullbore is the best.im just saying its better than the muff but it still doesnt match the TL-2


+1 the MM is simply a fizz box, and a bit overhyped imo.damn shame because i had a chance for one for 30 bucks too
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#19
the metal zone actually isnt bad if your playing any type of extreme metal. i know for a fact cannibal corpse uses it, and they have a sic tone IMO. it just seems like people rag on it because you cant get good moderately overdriven tones. just my view though
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the metal zone actually isnt bad if your playing any type of extreme metal. i know for a fact cannibal corpse uses it, and they have a sic tone IMO. it just seems like people rag on it because you cant get good moderately overdriven tones. just my view though

I rag on it because the EQ is worthless. I mean it's a good EQ system, but you'll be too busy using to to fix that 'half-cocked wah' sound to actually use the EQ the way it's meant to be used.

I don't think any of these pedals will give you the sound you want, unless you mean Bassman, as mentioned earlier. A bass amp will NOT give you a good metal sound, period. Well, not unless you're seriously downtuned. It's designed to handle a lower register, and anything above that will sound pretty weak.

That said, I always recommend www.olcircuits.com. They cost more, but it's worth every cent. Go there, pick out a pedal based on the massive amp you wished you owned, and wait for Mike to make it for you. He can even make suggestions of switch out components if you plan on playing downtuned or using a weird rig.
#21
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i HATED the MM, its muddy and uncontrollably fizzy .

im not saying the Fullbore is the best.im just saying its better than the muff but it still doesnt match the TL-2
I still think the TL-2 is fizzy.
#22
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I still think the TL-2 is fizzy.

its not as fizzy as the MM and the Fullbore
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#23
Barber Dirty Bomb or Hardwire TL-2. The ProGuitarShop demo doesn't really do the pedal justice, IMO.
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#24
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Barber Dirty Bomb or Hardwire TL-2. The ProGuitarShop demo doesn't really do the pedal justice, IMO.
Maybe that's why I think it's fizzy if you're talking about the TL-2.
#25
I was talking about the TL-2.
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#26
The HardWire stuff is pretty rockin'. Miles ahead of anything else Digitech makes. I'm kind of a snob about that sort of thing, and even I like them.
#27
The only thing the Hardwire series could use would be a Hardwire Whammy.
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Hardwire Whammy.

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#29
The only thing is that it's pretty unlikely, because the Hardwire series was designed by Hardwire (not DigiTech) which was a company that DigiTech acquired, but who knows?
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#30
Fullbore is HORRIBLE. No low end, buzzy, disgusting.

Unless you can find a Keeley MT-2 for under $100, save up.
#31
The Trex Bloody Mary was fairly good for a highgain pedal imo.

The problem with massive gain pedals is they either sound too fuzzy (metal muff), too digital (hardwire metal), not enough gain or too much gain or too buzzy (blackstar ht-dis)

Consider it like a normal amp and try before you buy.
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#32
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If you cant find a used Tech 21 GT2, go with the Metal Muff or Hardwire, though Im not a huge fan of either.

Depending on the kind of 80s metal youre talking about, an MI Audio Crunch Box may fit as well.

i 2nd this. i got mine 65 dollars shipped on ebay. best distortion i've ever had in front of me. blows the rest out of the water. i use it over the distortion settings on my vox amp (it has like 18 dif distortions) it just destroys, and type of gain you want, it's ****ing got it. i say wait around til you find a deal on this.
#33
Best idea is to get a used MT-2 and do the Monte Allums mods to it. Monte Allums MT-2 > Keeley MT-2 IMO.
If that fails, try to hunt down an HM-2 if you can dig the oldschool Swedish death metal toanz.

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#34
Dirty Bomb is a great option, I have one on order. Yeah used GT2 is also kickass, but the EQ isn't too powerful IMO...


And yeah DON'T buy a fullbore, sounds terrible...
#35
Quote by jean_genie
A bass amp will NOT give you a good metal sound, period. Well, not unless you're seriously downtuned. It's designed to handle a lower register, and anything above that will sound pretty weak.

I disagree. I find bass amps are great for Metal. they have a better low end control and sound a lot less flabby then some guitar amps when cranked. i know for a fact Josh Homme used bass amps in Kyuss
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#36
does the bass head have a line in or FX return? if so, i'd try going from the vypyr's headphone out into that on the bass amp, you'll get the vypyr's modeling with the bass head's power amp
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