#1
The Marshall JCM800 Kerry King.

Is this amp really good for:

Cleans? Not a biggie, but just curious.

Thrash metal, like Megadeth and Metallica?

Death Metal/metalcore/deathcore like Born of Osiris, BTBAM (sort of), Shadows Fall

Technical Death Metal, Progressive metal like Dream Theater, BTBAM (also fits in this category), Meshuggah, etc.

Shred and Neoclassical Metal, along the lines of like Jeff Loomis, Marty Friedman, Paul Gilbert, Yngwie Malmsteen,


Last question: Are there any amps that can do better?
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#2
I don't like the cleans on it personally. I made a thread reviewing it a few days ago. I think an ENGL or something similar would suit you better for those genres.
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#3
Cleans are decent.
it can do Death Metulz and more when used with a boost in the boosted channel.

and yea an ENGL Invader will be better
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#4
The Marshall Kerry King would be fine for everything you mentioned. As for clean tones, they are good but not spectacular. This is to be expected, as Mr. King is not what you'd call a jingle-jangle kind of guitarist.
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Cleans are decent.
it can do Death Metulz and more when used with a boost in the boosted channel.

and yea an ENGL Invader will be better

How about a Powerball V1?

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The Marshall Kerry King would be fine for everything you mentioned. As for clean tones, they are good but not spectacular. This is to be expected, as Mr. King is not what you'd call a jingle-jangle kind of guitarist.


haha yeah of course. The cleans aren't too important, but I don't want to have **** cleans or something. As long as they are decent-somewhat good. They don't have to be the Fender Twin Reverb or Marshall Bluesbreaker in terms of cleans.
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How about a Powerball V1?


I feel like there aren't enough mids personally but it would be fine as well.
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#7
i would say if you dont like Kerry's tone then you wont like the amp since thats what its based on. I would go with what the others said an Engl
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#8
If you want a JCM 800, just get a normal 800 and boost. I played the KK and it was okay, but not as good as a 2203 or 2204 imo.
#9
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How about a Powerball V1?

they're pretty decent but i suggest splurging some more to get one of ENGL's best amps
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Well, my price is limited. I've tried a Savage, Invader and a SE, and I can honestly say they are the BEST amps I've ever played.

And I'm fine with lacking mids. Although mids are nice, they are not the most important thing.

I've heard bad things about ENGL's clean channel. Is there any truth behind this?
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#11
If the KK's cleans are supposed to be meh, I'm pretty sure the ENGLs will have better cleans.

Consider the new Hughes and Kettner Coreblade as well; it's an update of the Switchblade geared toward metal.
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Well, my price is limited. I've tried a Savage, Invader and a SE, and I can honestly say they are the BEST amps I've ever played.

And I'm fine with lacking mids. Although mids are nice, they are not the most important thing.

I've heard bad things about ENGL's clean channel. Is there any truth behind this?




The ENGLs I've played had at worst a decent clean channel, which resulted from the lack of mids that I like. The Invader is my favorite ENGL though, mostly because it's got a more prominent mid range.

EDIT: Also, they may be referring to the shared EQ models. I don't like the shared EQ much since.
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Quote by Junnage
Well, my price is limited. I've tried a Savage, Invader and a SE, and I can honestly say they are the BEST amps I've ever played.

And I'm fine with lacking mids. Although mids are nice, they are not the most important thing.

I've heard bad things about ENGL's clean channel. Is there any truth behind this?
Trust me, mids are really, really important when in a band situation.
#14
I bought an engl screamer because i loved the cleans. They definately have better cleans then most other high gain amps i have played but then again i don't play high gain music.
#15
if you wanted to splurge a bit, you could go for a modeling amp? i think ibanez put out a new one recently. that way you could get both a good clean and a solid death-drive
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Trust me, mids are really, really important when in a band situation.

Would there be any way to cure this problem with an ENGL, whether it be as simple as an equalizer, or more complicated like mod the amp?

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if you wanted to splurge a bit, you could go for a modeling amp? i think ibanez put out a new one recently. that way you could get both a good clean and a solid death-drive


Not really big on Ibanez amps. Which one did you have in mind?
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#17
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Trust me, mids are really, really important when in a band situation.


I play my cleans with bass 10 mid 0 treble 10 and I cut through just fine.
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I play my cleans with bass 10 mid 0 treble 10 and I cut through just fine.


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God, why would you? x,x


Because some people like cleans with mids scooped? SRV used to scoop his mids for clean tones and Eric Johnson scoops his mids for cleans. I like to scoop my mids a bit when I use single coils clean but I love my mids for my humbucker cleans.
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#20
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Because some people like cleans with mids scooped? SRV used to scoop his mids for clean tones and Eric Johnson scoops his mids for cleans. I like to scoop my mids a bit when I use single coils clean but I love my mids for my humbucker cleans.
I scoop my mids for cleans, but we're talking about the dirty channel I thought?
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I scoop my mids for cleans, but we're talking about the dirty channel I thought?

That's what I was talking about.

But I'm not talking Bass 10 Mids 0 Treble 10 Presence 10 for dirty.

My amp settings generally have the Mids at about 3-7 for both my clean and dirty channel (it just works for me on my Marshall).


Also,

with regards to the genres I mentioned, what would you think about the Mesa Boogie Mark IV?
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I scoop my mids for cleans, but we're talking about the dirty channel I thought?


Before yes, but Raijouta said he scooped his mids alot for cleans and he asked why he would do that.
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#24
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That's what I was talking about.

But I'm not talking Bass 10 Mids 0 Treble 10 Presence 10 for dirty.

My amp settings generally have the Mids at about 3-7 for both my clean and dirty channel (it just works for me on my Marshall).


Also,

with regards to the genres I mentioned, what would you think about the Mesa Boogie Mark IV?

great amps and highly versatile.

but IMO splurge a bit and get a Roadster/Roadking
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great amps and highly versatile.

but IMO splurge a bit and get a Roadster/Roadking

And with regards to like Thrash Metal, Technical Death Metal and Shred, in particular, it would be ideal?


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I'd say for MK V over MK IV.


As cool as that would be, not an option at this point (for now)
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