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A German auto engineering company is working on a project that just might solve the world's oil problems. ...

Conceptually, roads would be fitted with electrical conductors that create magnetic fields, which charge your battery powered vehicle as you drive. Radio chips would identify your vehicle and bill you appropriately. The conductors are resistant to both weather and mechanical wear.


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What do you guys think about this idea?

"Commercially available" in about three years, they say, but my question for them is how much will this drive up road building costs? As long as towns are steering toward the cheapest roads available, this idea, however clever, is doomed to crash and burn.

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What do you guys think about this idea?

"Commercially available" in about three years, they say, but my question for them is how much will this drive up road building costs? As long as towns are steering toward the cheapest roads available, this idea, however clever, is doomed to crash and burn.


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Would the magnets mess with things like cell phones or laptops or radios? And would it be constantly charging? What if your battery is full and it's still trying to charge it and you have to pay when your battery doesn't need it?
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Do you realize how expensive it would be to line nearly every road with this stuff? Not to mention all the downtime it would create on busy streets by having to do it.
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And would it be constantly charging? What if your battery is full and it's still trying to charge it and you have to pay when your battery doesn't need it?


It would probably be able to check the battery level of your car. I doubt they would overlook that major problem.
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"Commercially available" in about three years, they say, but my question for them is how much will this drive up road building costs? As long as towns are steering toward the cheapest roads available, this idea, however clever, is doomed to crash and burn.

I think it's friggin' genius.

But it will fail (or take years to implement) due to the bold. Hell, half the roads in my hometown are that gravel-stuck-together-with-asphalt crap. Can't stand the stuff, but it'll last tens of years before having to be replaced.

AÆdit: Not to mention that you'd have to tear up all the already-in-place roads before putting these in, taking weeks for every mile of road, and millions in labor. And then there's the conversion of the cars.

In essence, it's all our problems solved, but in reality, lots of big spending would have to happen.
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Pfft, make me a thread when there are hover-cars.
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Yo Londoners, I heard you like charging, so we're charging you for your charging.

Probably a good idea. Well it sounds good too me.

I had a thought about every vehicle being on a tramline, or some sort of train track. Same speeds, etc.
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Do you realize how expensive it would be to line nearly every road with this stuff? Not to mention all the downtime it would create on busy streets by having to do it.

That's my problem with it too. It's a great theory, but to work out, like alternate fuels, magnet roads would have to be everywhere. I've seen a million E85 SUVs here in Oklahoma, but never have I ever seen an E85 fuel pump, for example. Why? It costs money, and people aren't gonna pay that much for a risk that big.

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How much of that electricity will be produced without the burning of coal or other fossil fuels?


Very little, honestly, VERY, VERY little. This is almost as dumb as electric cars for people trying to "save the environment". They consume more fossil fuels than traditional combustion engines.

PS:

What about offroad vehicles?

Boats?

Planes?

Do they all get neat alternative fuel sources now too?

A real alternative to this would be developing a proper, efficient, kinetically powered engine.
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Would the magnets mess with things like cell phones or laptops or radios? And would it be constantly charging? What if your battery is full and it's still trying to charge it and you have to pay when your battery doesn't need it?


I'd imagine you're charged based on what your car says its received, as there's no accurate way for the transmitter to accurately know how much energy has been absorbed.

Of course this means it'd be a DRM nightmare and a hackers' dream, though if it were centrally controlled cheaters could be readily caught.

Nice idea but very expensive. afaik remote power distribution still wastes something like 25% of power.
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Nice idea but very expensive. afaik remote power distribution still wastes something like 25% of power.

Article: this has 90% efficiency.

I wonder if there would be some other way to implement this. What if people built, like, these short little tracks we could drive around on in circles until the car is fully recharged?

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What about us that live in the country? And they're not going to rip up all the roads and put that in, and expect everyone to buy these new cars. I doubt it's going to happen.
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Hmm.

Not gonna work. Humans wouldn't like, 'cause it would cause no polution.
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Article: this has 90% efficiency.

I wonder if there would be some other way to implement this. What if people built, like, these short little tracks we could drive around on in circles until the car is fully recharged?


or better yet, don't use fuel while refueling and have the cars come to a stop at a station giving them a fuel service - a "service station" if you will!
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Very little, honestly, VERY, VERY little. This is almost as dumb as electric cars for people trying to "save the environment". They consume more fossil fuels than traditional combustion engines.

That's sort of what I figured
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I'd imagine you're charged based on what your car says its received, as there's no accurate way for the transmitter to accurately know how much energy has been absorbed.

Of course this means it'd be a DRM nightmare and a hackers' dream, though if it were centrally controlled cheaters could be readily caught.

Nice idea but very expensive. afaik remote power distribution still wastes something like 25% of power.

This. Power transmission like that is horrendously inefficient.
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Hey I got an idea: walking

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I don't know if it said this, but what about emergency vechicles? If everything is like on tram line, or being powered by this, how can they save people? Electric motors aren't that fast anyway.

They should just work on hydrogen things just now, and get a way to get that without digging for oil.
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Hey I got an idea: walking

That's stupid, we're trying to prevent fossil fuel consumption, not address obesity issues.

Edit^: Most hydrogen is extracted from fossil fuels. They can do it with water electrolysis, but it's very inefficient, not to mention clean water is becoming a scarce resource itself.
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Road building costs? You'd probably have private companies buying the roads, and therefore building the roads.
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I don't know if it said this, but what about emergency vechicles? If everything is like on tram line, or being powered by this, how can they save people? Electric motors aren't that fast anyway.

They should just work on hydrogen things just now, and get a way to get that without digging for oil.


Cars won't be on a fixed "rail", the road itself provides the power.
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Article: this has 90% efficiency.

I wonder if there would be some other way to implement this. What if people built, like, these short little tracks we could drive around on in circles until the car is fully recharged?

This is 90% efficiency on their 1/28 scale model.
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I don't know if it said this, but what about emergency vechicles? If everything is like on tram line, or being powered by this, how can they save people? Electric motors aren't that fast anyway.

They should just work on hydrogen things just now, and get a way to get that without digging for oil.


It's not a tram line, and cars would still have a battery for non-charging roads. You can readily come off the bit which charges the car. That's why it's wireless!
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I have a better idea. Nuclear powered cars.
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or better yet, don't use fuel while refueling and have the cars come to a stop at a station giving them a fuel service - a "service station" if you will!




exactly what i was gonna reply with except my reply wouldn't have been as funny
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Cars won't be on a fixed "rail", the road itself provides the power.

Yeah, but like I said, electric motors aren't that fast, and I don't think they'd charge as easy if you're going at high speeds.
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great idea, but is it commercialy viable?
i mean obviously in a glorious socialist country the state would pay, but would the American public allow their government to do anything for them?
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I have a better idea. Nuclear powered cars.

What could possibly go wrong?

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I have a better idea. Nuclear powered cars.


If only.

The idea of these roads, or electric cars period, will only be beneficial if traditional power plants switch to nuclear power.
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If we're running out of oil, Why don't we just bury more dead stuff and make more oil...?

Oh, and my freinds are trying to design a car that runs off stem cells... Off the record, of course...
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Huh,so...why don't they try to make some sort of solar powered vehicles...powered by sun,lasts 4 days to a week,then recharge (collectors make their best with sun rays,giving energy etc...every day)...in case u're wondering about rainy days or so,some sort of electrical charges to cover it(or used saved energy from before).Better to invest a massive amount in this than in making all roads and stuff magnetic field powered or so. But this is just my opinion,right?
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That's stupid, we're trying to prevent fossil fuel consumption, not address obesity issues.

I'm killing 2 birds with 1 stone.

...modes and scales are still useless.


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If we're running out of oil, Why don't we just bury more dead stuff and make more oil...?


Because in the millions of years that it takes to produce oil, we would have already run dry.

That might've been the stupidest thing that I've EVER read...

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Huh,so...why don't they try to make some sort of solar powered vehicles...powered by sun,lasts 4 days to a week,then recharge...in case u're wondering about rainy days or so,some sort of electrical charges to cover it.Better to invest a massive amount in this than in making all roads and stuff magnetic field powered or so. But this is just my opinion,right?


Solar energy is ridiculously inefficient (though not as much as wind). Cars consume massive amounts of energy.

Innefficiency+Lots of energy=Doesn't work so well
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