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#1
Thinking back on the movie "Pan's Labyrinth" sorta got me thinkin'...

When we die, does our brain take us to some dreamlike consciousness??? Whether or not it's a good dream or a nightmare, does our brain take us there when we kick the bucket?

I think this may sorta explain out of body experiences. Those who experience, their brains will recollect what's around them in their dreams, sorta creating what seems to be happening. Or, it's still have some functioning(because it lives for awhile after you die unless it gets blown up) and is still pertainin info while you are experiencing this "dream".

Sort of also explains the people experiencing heaven or hell. Their brain goes into a dream state and depending on how things have been you could have a good dream(heaven) or a nightmare(hell).


Dreams have shown to last much longer than they really do in real life.


Thinking about this also reminds me of an epic thread here where the user would often experience whole lifetimes in his dreams.
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It does sometimes.
That's why with near death experiences, some people see a "light at the end of the tunnel". Scientific research proved this some time ago.

That people hallucinate...? Nothing new there.
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#5
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That people hallucinate...? Nothing new there.


Meh. I guess.
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Meh. I guess.
Anyways I saw Jesus the other day and he told me the key to the success of life was to have a healthy balance of cheese. So I've eaten nothing but cheese.

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Nice logic there.


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#9
i have fried my brain on trolling to the point of no return, heavy metal, and a lot of pot.
When i die i'm sure my brain well take a well deserved break and whatever is left will dissolve in my head.
#11
When you die it's like that dream you never remembered but only it's forever.
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#12
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When you die, so does your brain and its functions. So, no.


I heard that the brain still has activity after death, just for a while though.
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#13
when you die (or rather are about to die), large amounts of DXM are released in your brain. thus, explaining near-death experiences and the light at the end of the tunnel ****

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#14
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I heard that the brain still has activity after death, just for a while though.


Once blood and oxygen stop being supplied to the brain it ceases to function. Whether or not it has some sort of "left over" energy to do certain things, I don't know at this point.
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That short activity is enough to create a "fake reality" for you to be in, no?
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#16
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When you die it's like that dream you never remembered but only it's forever.

I suppose it will be exactly like before I was born.
#17
Speaking of dreams, I had a dream last night where I was JD in another musical episode of Scrubs...my sub-conscience somehow managed to come up with a song on the spot that actually rhymed...It was the single most awesome dream I have ever had!!!
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#19
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That short activity is enough to create a "fake reality" for you to be in, no?


Once you're dead, as in flat-line dead, your brain is no longer active. And I'm fairly sure that there is no longer any activity at all at that point. I only stated that there may be enough energy to do something because I wasn't sure. I'm still not, but it seems logical that once you're dead, thats that. And regardless, dreams are perceptions, something that you can 'see', 'sense', and 'feel', so I highly doubt that there is any thing like that once your brain is dead.
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Once you're dead, as in flat-line dead, your brain is no longer active. And I'm fairly sure that there is no longer any activity at all at that point. I only stated that there may be enough energy to do something because I wasn't sure. I'm still not, but it seems logical that once you're dead, thats that. And regardless, dreams are perceptions, something that you can 'see', 'sense', and 'feel', so I highly doubt that there is any thing like that once your brain is dead.

Yeah, but flat lining on the brain-activity scale doesn't mean necessarily no action because some UK doctor was doing an experiment with vegetable patients with NO brain function at all and would ask them things like "I know you like tennis. Try to imagine the racket hitting the ball." Then the brain activity would light up.
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#21
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Yeah, but flat lining on the brain-activity scale doesn't mean necessarily no action because some UK doctor was doing an experiment with vegetable patients with NO brain function at all and would ask them things like "I know you like tennis. Try to imagine the racket hitting the ball." Then the brain activity would light up.


But theres a difference between brain-dead, such as vegetables, and flatlining. Flat-lining is zero response from the brain, nothing, zero, zlich, nada, etc. Just a dead brain.
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Once you're dead, as in flat-line dead, your brain is no longer active. And I'm fairly sure that there is no longer any activity at all at that point. I only stated that there may be enough energy to do something because I wasn't sure. I'm still not, but it seems logical that once you're dead, thats that. And regardless, dreams are perceptions, something that you can 'see', 'sense', and 'feel', so I highly doubt that there is any thing like that once your brain is dead.


I know that once you're dead, that's it.

But the brain should be able to make something up for awhile, no?

That's what I'm thinking.

Even if it only makes something up for a second in this word, it could last for who knows how long in the dream.
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#23
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I know that once you're dead, that's it.

But the brain should be able to make something up for awhile, no?

That's what I'm thinking.

Even if it only makes something up for a second in this word, it could last for who knows how long in the dream.


Looked into it, a little bit. Turns out there is very little activity, which gets weak at an extremely rapid rate. For it to be picked up, you would pretty much have to die in a hospital which getting an EEG But once your brain relays out the remaining electrical signals out to the rest of your bad, that's it. It's only a matter of seconds after flat-lining that your brain ceases all activity.
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Once blood and oxygen stop being supplied to the brain it ceases to function. Whether or not it has some sort of "left over" energy to do certain things, I don't know at this point.

I'll take your word for it over anyone elses here.

arent you going to Wayne State to be a doctor?
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#25
when you die, you die. That is all, there is nothing after.
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I'll take your word for it over anyone elses here.

arent you going to Wayne State to be a doctor?


Right-o.

But a doctor of oncology, I'm not interested in neuro-science or anything of that sort.
#27
When facing death, the possibility of death, or severe trauma, your brains releases a wonderful cocktail of chemicals that gives you feel-good sensations, tranquility, and happiness. A chemical-heaven, if you will. But if the progression continues, no. There is no consciousness. You are dead. Congratz!
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#28
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When facing death, the possibility of death, or severe trauma, your brains releases a wonderful cocktail of chemicals that give you feel-good sensations, tranquility, and happiness. A chemical-heaven, if you will. But if the progression continues, no. There is no consciousness. You are dead. Congratz!


When you suffer severe trauma of sorts, your body produces a chemical called DXM, which helps you fight to live, essentially. Also you go into shock, which is a sort of dream like state to help the time go by faster
#29
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Right-o.

But a doctor of oncology, I'm not interested in neuro-science or anything of that sort.

Nice

I'm hoping to transfer there in the next two years.
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Resistance is victory.


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Nice

I'm hoping to transfer there in the next two years.


Why two years? You only need 12 transfer credits to be a transfer student
#31
Quote by Daffodil Lament
When you suffer severe trauma of sorts, your body produces a chemical called DXM, which helps you fight to live, essentially. Also you go into shock, which is a sort of dream like state to help the time go by faster


I was describing shock to an extent, but if I remember correctly in cases of severe trauma, a surge of dopamine, epinephrine, and some norepinephrine is also released and it often gives the victim trippy, peaceful images. The few people that do survive often describe a sense of peace and it's-gonna-be-okay feeling during that time.
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#32
Depends whether they still have their brain or not.
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#33
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Depends whether they still have their brain or not.


Said something about that in the OP.
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#34
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Why two years? You only need 12 transfer credits to be a transfer student

I know.

I'm going to Schoolcraft now, its my freshman year. I say two years because I don't know what I want to get my degree in yet. I'm hoping to figure that out in the next two years and I don't want to spend a bunch of money at Wayne State taking a bunch of classes that doesn't go towards the degree I end up choosing.
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Resistance is victory.


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#35
Maybe it's like a record skipping... your final thoughts are repeated over and over again for eternity, because your final thoughts will make up your entire existence...

Anyway, I must go. I need to hide all these trippy drugs
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#36
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I was describing shock to an extent, but if I remember correctly in cases of severe trauma, a surge of dopamine, epinephrine, and some norepinephrine is also released and it often gives the victim trippy, peaceful images. The few people that do survive often describe a sense of peace and it's-gonna-be-okay feeling during that time.


You're right about dopamine, but i'm not sure about epinephrine or norepinephrine, I'm not too familiar with those chemicals. I do know that your body does produce dopamine when something like trauma occurs, its almost like a morphine drip, minus the numbing sensations, I suppose. But it also depends on whether the trauma you've endured still allows your body to take in the dopamine via receptors, or if the trauma was caused because you were on some hardcore drug like cocaine or heroin, which block the dopamine receptor intakes.



Edit: But like I said before, what were discussing here is neuroscience, and my knowledge in that is very limited. Actually I think what I just said may be the extent of my knowledge of neuroscience
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#37
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Meh. I guess.
Anyways I saw Jesus the other day and he told me the key to the success of life was to have a healthy balance of cheese. So I've eaten nothing but cheese.


#38
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when you die (or rather are about to die), large amounts of DXM are released in your brain. thus, explaining near-death experiences and the light at the end of the tunnel ****

source: joe rogan



Thats DMT not DXM.
#39
Damn it Pit. Just when I thought there was some hope of and afterlife from these near death experiences, this thread popped up and now that hope is gone
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Damn it Pit. Just when I thought there was some hope of and afterlife from these near death experiences, this thread popped up and now that hope is gone


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