#1
i'm looking for something that is extremely versatile, capable of gigging and isn't more than around £2500 including a cab (bearing in mind i only really have space for a 2x12 thanks to my ridiculously small room). i've looked at the Mesa mk V and the dual rectifier but haven't played either yet. the nearest decent guitar store is a 4 hour drive away but i should be going some time in the next 2 weeks. any suggestions for other that i should try out and have a look at that are in the same kind os league??

i'm playing mostly high gain stuff, i'm currently loving Dream Theater and Nightwish amoung others, but i play pretty much everything from 60s classic rock and blues through to 80s high gain rock and metal and modern heavy metal.
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#2
I'm assuming you're in the UK?

Are you happy to look on the used market, otherwise, Mesa Boogie will rip you off. If you love their tone more than anything else, cool, go for it, but I personally think you can do better.

The thing is, with £2500 you're choice is immense, and you won't necessarily get a "bad" amp. So it's essential that you try these amps at yourself (or you buy them with a 30-day money back guarantee and send them back if you're not happy with it)

What kind of specs/tones are you afer?
What is your current gear?
Are you into Marshall-esque Plexi tones? Or more modern Europian tone, ala Bogner? What's your thoughts?
#3
i'm certainly up for looking in the used market, but i dont know that much about amps though so i wouldn't know what is good/bad in terms of wear and tear. yeah i am in England where prices are ridiculous ("yay"), currently i'm running an Ltd H-1000 kitted with EMGs an Ibanez RG1570 and a 1970s Les Paul Standard. my amp is Marshall MG30 which is a piece of crap hence why new amp. tone wise i'm not too sure what you mean by the European bognor thing, but definitely not a plexi i dont like it at all. i play mostly very high gain rock and metal if that helps. i will look at other brands other than mesa, but i really do like what i've heard so far
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Oh, sorry, I forgot to ask, will you be gigging with this amp?
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#5
i would like to be able to, nothing really big though just relatively small gigs
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bogner ecstacy
engl se
diezel vh4 (or maybe the other diezels too, i've only tried the vh4)
vht (various models)
soldano (various models)
brunetti xlr-evo
koch (various models)
maybe even cornford, if they get heavy enough for you.

up to you really, any of those would be really nice (and I've probably forgotten some really obvious ones, too), it's going to be personal preference as to which you prefer.
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Mesa Boogie Mark V. I've only very briefly heard and played the Mark III head, but this new edition is supposed to be just as good. I owned a Single Rectifier for a while, and even at 50 watts, I had to really push the valves hard to get rid of the low bass response and flub. This is supposed to have great tone anyway you EQ it, which is totally different to the Rectifier series, which are irritating to get right.
http://www.thomann.de/ie/mesa_boogie_mark_v_head.htm

Mesa Boogie Dual Rectifier. Too loud and not tight enough for my tastes. Many, many people love them, though.
http://www.guitarampkeyboard.com/en/dual-rectifier/3046

Diezel VH4. I haven't played this myself, but it's supposed to be one of the best amplifiers ever made. Of course, it's all relative to your ears, but still. Diezel are renowned for having really articulate and snarling response. You can really hear your playing through the amp. There is no dillution or colouring, just raw tone.
http://www.thomann.de/ie/diezel_vh4_6550.htm

Diezel Einstein. I'm currently in the market for one of these.
http://www.thomann.de/ie/diezel_einstein_50_head_el34.htm

Soldano Hot Rod. Most of the best high-gain amplifiers are based off of the Soldano SLO, which this is a cheaper copy of.
http://www.thomann.de/ie/soldano_hr_50_head_bk.htm

Framus Dragon. I owned this for a while. It sounds awful at low volumes, but otherwise, it's a beast. Great clean tones.
http://www.thomann.de/ie/framus_dragon.htm

Engl Invader. There are quite a few different ENGL models you should look at.
http://www.thomann.de/ie/engl_invader_100.htm

ENGL Fireball. Pretty aggressive tone. Not versatile in the slightest, but for Death Metal it's pretty kick ass.
http://www.thomann.de/ie/engl_fireball_e625_gitarrentopteil.htm

ENGL Blackmore. One of the more cheaper yet versatile ENGL amps.
http://www.thomann.de/ie/engl_blackmore_signature_e650_topteil.htm

ENGL Savage. I haven't played this. I've heard very few people complain about it, though.
http://www.thomann.de/ie/engl_savage_120_e610.htm

ENGL Powerball. I once owned one of these. They're good (some love them) but I kinda grew out of it. Too much compression and flubbiness. It had so many bells 'n' whistles, but lacked in pure tone, IMO.
http://www.thomann.de/ie/engl_powerball_e645.htm

H&K Duotone. I can't say I was a huge fan of this when I tried it out, but then again, I've never been blown away by Hughes&Kettner gear.
http://www.thomann.de/ie/hughes_kettner_duotone.htm

H&K Switchblade. Good effects on it.
http://www.thomann.de/ie/hugheskettner_switchblade_head.htm

H&K Trilogy. Supposed to be great. I only briefly played it, and I thought it was decent.
http://www.thomann.de/ie/hugheskettner_trilogy.htm

Peavey 3120. I haven't played this, yet, but it's supposed to be a remake of the Triple XXX series, which is a great amp. This one comes stock with different valves, however, which really alters the tone drastically.
http://www.thomann.de/ie/peavey_3120.htm

Peavey 6505+. Pretty standard really. Great high-gain tones, but lacks in the clean departement, IMO, and only gets going at higher volumes.
http://www.thomann.de/ie/peavey_6505_plus_gitarrentopteil.htm

Orange Rockerverb. This is a more vintage sounding amp and doens't have huge amounts of gain, but it's definitely worth researching for yourself.
http://www.thomann.de/ie/orange_rockerverb_50_head.htm

Randall RM100. This is ideal because it sounds decent at most volumes and can be altered in any way that you want, due to it's preamp modules, which can be changed to create different sounds.
http://www.thomann.de/ie/randall_rm100m.htm

Marshall Kerry King. This is supposed to be surprisingly good. And I know you said you weren't a fan of the Marshall tone, but this may be different.
http://www.thomann.de/ie/marshall_2203kk_kerry_king_signature.htm

Laney VH100R. More British than anything else here. Great amp, though.
http://www.thomann.de/ie/laney_vh100rn.htm

Bogner Alchemist. Very dark and moody sounding.
http://www.thomann.de/ie/bogner_alchemist_hd.htm

Line 6 Vetta II. Great if you want to play at low volumes and love to tweak your amp.
http://www.guitarampkeyboard.com/en/line6-vetta-2/10666

Brunetti XLR-EVO 60. If you can find one of these, you'll be rewarded.


Like I said, there are so many choices.
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yeah i am in England where prices are ridiculous ("yay")


lol you think prices in England are ridiculous? a Fender Frontman 2x12 100W, a Peavey Bandit 112 or a Line 6 Spider III 75w here costs 1000 dollars, no kidding, no exageration...
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#9
cheers for the advice, i'll be looking into a lot of these amps. thanks )
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all that stuff



wow that was quite the list


The only thing I disagree with is your comment on the Rockerverb. When I played it I thought it had ass loads of gain. How much of that is usable I guess would be the question. Jim Root uses one.



Otherwise, like I said, killer list