#1
of for the ones of us who have a job this one concerns you. all others can leave comments.

i was thinking the other day that its BS how we have to have urine tests randomly to see if we're doing drugs. now my line of work doesn't do this(dishwasher/line cook) but i have family members who have to go through this. my question is if we have to get a piss test every once in a while then why don't the ones on welfare/public assistance have to? i mean i work hard or hardly work for the money i earn and these people just sign up and the government gives them some of my payckeck. so my point is if we have to take random piss tests then why not subject the people on welfare to the same standards?
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#3
They should have to take them too, but the government would look at that as spending too much money, so they won't...
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I agree that people on welfare should have to take piss tests too. Most jobs that require a piss test are legit though. For example if you're doing some work with heavy machinery you're chances of getting hurt and suing the company are less if you're sober compared to being stoned.
#5
I just don't agree with piss tests full stop. What you do on your own time is your buisness, if someone wants to go home at night and get high thats their prerogative so long as they aint getting wasted at work.

But i agree, those seeking welfare should get tested, maybe if they weeded out the stoners and junkies us that actually want a job would get more help.

Basicly, if you're paying your taxes, fine, let them live there life without that invasion of privacy.
If you (like me at the moment) are claiming wellfare then by all means test me, i actually want a job and aint sponging for pot money from the government and using up resources which could be better used finding people work who actually want work.
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Because people who are on welfare aren't doing anything. And if your not doing anything, you can't hurt anyone but yourself, and we don't care about people who don't care about hurting themselves...
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But i agree, those seeking welfare should get tested, maybe if they weeded out the stoners and junkies us that actually want a job would get more help.

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Well, f**k it, what am I supposed to do? My company has random piss tests, but I'm not gonna get angry at them. They're a private company, and can basically do whatever they want vis a vis employees so long as it doesn't violate EEOC rules.

If I didn't want to piss test any more, I'm always more than welcome to resign my position and bid farewell.
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But i agree, those seeking welfare should get tested, maybe if they weeded out the stoners and junkies us that actually want a job would get more help.




There are stoners and junkies with jobs too. I'd rather have them unemployed and on welfare than driving a city bus or something like that. Piss tests will keep them out of jobs like this. I don't see a problem there.
#16
Very fitting name TS, and I don't see why people on welfare need to be drug tested. If they can prove they need welfare because they can't get a job then I think that's all we need to know about them.
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of for the ones of us who have a job this one concerns you. all others can leave comments.

i was thinking the other day that its BS how we have to have urine tests randomly to see if we're doing drugs.

It is, complete bullshit. I agree.
now my line of work doesn't do this(dishwasher/line cook) but i have family members who have to go through this.

They should be in a trade union, then they wouldn't have to.

my question is if we have to get a piss test every once in a while then why don't the ones on welfare/public assistance have to? i mean i work hard or hardly work for the money i earn and these people just sign up and the government gives them some of my payckeck. so my point is if we have to take random piss tests then why not subject the people on welfare to the same standards?

1) You want to pay for drug tests too, out of spite?
2) On a decent system of welfare people have to prove that they are actively seeking employment, if they are doing this then whether or not they are taking drugs is irrelevant. Just as it is irrelevant if you are taking drugs in the workplace provided your work does not slip, which would be determined without the need for drug tests.
3) If those standards are wrong then why would you want to subject more people to them?
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Very fitting name TS, and I don't see why people on welfare need to be drug tested. If they can prove they need welfare because they can't get a job then I think that's all we need to know about them.

It's not exactly easy to get a job right now.

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1) You want to pay for drug tests too, out of spite?
2) On a decent system of welfare people have to prove that they are actively seeking employment, if they are doing this then whether or not they are taking drugs is irrelevant. Just as it is irrelevant if you are taking drugs in the workplace provided your work does not slip, which would be determined without the need for drug tests.
3) If those standards are wrong then why would you want to subject more people to them?


if it finds the actual people who are truely looking for a job from the people just to lazy to get a job who use the money to buy drugs yes. they already take more then they need but hey i'm just a working class slob.
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if it finds the actual people who are truely looking for a job from the people just to lazy to get a job who use the money to buy drugs yes. they already take more then they need but hey i'm just a working class slob.

The actual measures of "are you looking for a job" are far better at seeing that. You could be doing drugs and looking for a job really hard or you could be clean and not looking at all.
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I've been randomly peeing in a bottle for the better part of 3 decades.
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#25
piss test? they hair test us where i work. pain in the ass.

personally I'd rather have them do a better job of weeding out the ppl who just arent' really looking for jobs. When i was growing up my neighbor was on welfare for most of my childhood. Dunno how she never got a job and stayed on welfare but she did it. Loopholes in all government programs ya know.
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#28
People get drug tests to make sure they don't **** up at work and injure other people eg pilots, working with electricity etc etc
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