#1
hey guys
So recently, my band's bassist quit because he had to focus on his schoolwork.
Originally, we thought he would be able to rejoin in a few weeks, but it turns out he wont be able to.
Then we started looking for solutions. We want to keep this within our school (so we can perform there), but unfortunately, he was one of the only 2 bassists we have, and the other is currently playing drums for us (and he doesnt wanna switch back). There is a third one, but hes playing guitar for us too, and we need 3 guitarists (right now, were playing Only For The Weak by In Flames, which has a rhythm gtr part and a pretty much continuous harmonized lead.)

So this brings us to our solutions: one of them is to put our rhythm guitarist on bass, but i think the song would sound incomplete without a rhythm gtr part. it would also involve teaching him a brand new instrument.

My solution is that we put the bass all the way up on our rhythm guitarists amp and have him play the rhythm gtr line. (he uses a 70w peavey vypyr)

Does anyone know how that would sound?
#2
It won't sound like a bass at all. It'll sound like a guitar with the bass all the way up.
#3
do a less demanding song. or personalize it to suit your band. its stupid to have someone switch instruments because of just one song. Unless you guys have other songs with that kind of requirements. giving the rhythm guitarist full bass will also sound really bad maybe give him an octave pedal or have one of the guitarist use a harmonizer pedal so you dont need 3 of them.
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It won't sound like a bass at all. It'll sound like a guitar with the bass all the way up.

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why don't you get a harmonizer pedal? then you only need 1 lead guitarist


This is what I was gonna say. Harmonizer pedal, and then you'll only need 2 guitarists.
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I did this once, but the other wqay ound - My bass was being repaired, was not finished in time for a gig, so the leagd player loaned me his spare guitar, tunde the four bass strings an octave low, and I played it for one night.
It sounded odd, but it passed for one night.

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#8
yep, why not i`ve done it before i was asked to join a band where the drummer and bassist were related thing is the bassist was so bad we had to turn his amps down and i doubled up the basslines. sounded crap though

funny thing was he didn`t even realise that we were turning his amps down.......
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Quote by TechnoLp
do a less demanding song. or personalize it to suit your band. its stupid to have someone switch instruments because of just one song. Unless you guys have other songs with that kind of requirements. giving the rhythm guitarist full bass will also sound really bad maybe give him an octave pedal or have one of the guitarist use a harmonizer pedal so you dont need 3 of them.

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hahahaha, as a bassist this amuses the hell out of me. thats like telling a bassist to turn the treble all the way up on his amp to make it sound like a guitar.
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hahahaha, as a bassist this amuses the hell out of me. thats like telling a bassist to turn the treble all the way up on his amp to make it sound like a guitar.

It's possible

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tja6_h4lT6A

Closest sounding guitar sound for a bass I have heard in awhile.
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Maybe use a pitch shifter pedal?
You can indeed do this, it still won't sound like a real bass but it will be technically producing the same notes in the same octave as the bass would; only, it will sound like a synth-bass.

Anyway, I think all these solutions are stupid, quite simply. Just learn how to cover a song better so it works within your band set up. Changing how or what any of you plays for the sake of an additional tracked lead part on one song is completely stupid.
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why don't you get a harmonizer pedal? then you only need 1 lead guitarist

well i actually had another idea similar to that
our rhythm guitarist uses an epi LP ultra II, which has 2 outputs
so my idea was that we run one to his regular guitar amp, and run another through my friend's digitech rp90 with the bass guitar setting on into a bass amp.
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Have you considered playing the harmonies on bass, instead of using three guitar players?
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Maybe put bass strings on the guitar and see if that will sound better
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Maybe put bass strings on the guitar and see if that will sound better

There is no chance that they would fit in the nut or bridge.

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Have you considered playing the harmonies on bass, instead of using three guitar players?


^this^
there's an extra two strings down the bottom you know.
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There is no chance that they would fit in the nut or bridge.


plus you could end up breaking the bridge
you'd need to tune it tight enough...since the string wont tear tear the bridge will break
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It's possible

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tja6_h4lT6A

Closest sounding guitar sound for a bass I have heard in awhile.


Hell even The White Stripes manage it with 7 nation army.
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Hell even The White Stripes manage it with 7 nation army.


Jack White really can use a bass to sound like a bass.
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#22
Actually for this particular song you don't need 3 guitars. In Flames play it live quite often and they only have to guitarist, so listen to some live performances of the song and figure it out.
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#23
Loop pedal? And just turn it on when you need it to? Turnig the bass all the way up will sound muddy and like poo.
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plus you could end up breaking the bridge
you'd need to tune it tight enough...since the string wont tear tear the bridge will break


I agree it would be a pain in the ass but im pretty sure its been done before...
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#25
Use 4 octave pedals and a phaser at the same time... One down an octave and the other one right after the first one up 12 steps then down 12 steps then the phaser at the fastest modulation or speed rate it can go then up an octave. It should solve all your bassist lacking problems.


but seriously...
just get a harmonizer pedal. Like the Boss PS-5. Or dont worry about having a bassist. Or teach one of your non musical friends how to play... thats what I did in one band... Also going from rhythm to bass isnt like learning a new instruments its normally more like taking away 2 strings and telling him to play one string at a time... (most of the time depending on the style.)
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