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Despite the fact that I'm a lifelong practicing Catholic, my Mom thinks I need to do more. (OK, we are all called to the ministry in some sense, but...)

So she's been bugging me to join the choir at our church, not as a singer- really, my strength*- but as a guitarist.

I haven't said yes as yet because personally, its not something I'd do, but after 3 years of bugging me, perhaps my resistance is eroding.

However, since our choir's musical director is a multi-instrumentalist/vocalist Christain recording artist who usually sings & plays guitars (who recorded with Andy Timmons, for goodness sakes!), along with other instrumentalists- a professional pianist, a former professional guitarist turned pro photographer, and a talented bass player- I'd need to do something a bit different to fit in the mix while still contributing something meaningful to the aural landscape.

My solution? A 12-string. I figure that unique, chiming sound would add a little sparkle to the sound of the band- especially in a nice, big church full of wood, metal, tile and stone- without standing out too much.

Since I don't currently own a 12-string, this serves as both a goal and a way to put off a final decision. Its a stall that will give me the time to decide whether I have the skill, confidence and really, the desire to do this.

I've looked at a couple for my own personal use, mostly straight acoustics. For this, though, I'd need either an acoustic-electric or a straight electric.

The 12's I've looked at on the internet include:

Phantom Teardrop 12
http://www.phantomguitars.com/teardrop.html

Veillette Swift or Standard 12
http://www.veilletteguitars.com/

Ovation Legend 12
http://www.ovationguitars.com/?fa=detail&mid=2295

Rickenbacker 370/12
http://www.rickenbacker.com/model.asp?model=370/12

Carvin Thinline AE185-12, Thinline AC275-12, Solidbody DC127-12, or C980T12
http://www.carvinguitars.com/catalog/guitars/index.php?model=ae185-12
http://www.carvinguitars.com/catalog/guitars/index.php?model=ac275-12
http://www.carvinguitars.com/catalog/guitars/index.php?model=dc127-12
http://www.carvinguitars.com/products/single.php?product=C980T12&cid=75

Seagull Coastline Cedar 12
http://www.seagullguitars.com/productcoastcedar12.htm

I could even get a custom Jon Kammerer- a luthier from whom I've bought other guitars.
http://jonkammererguitars.com/jkghtml_005.htm

Obviously, I'm all over the place on this. The only 12s I ever liked that have ever been in my hands are an Ovation and a Seagull, and I despite my love for my EVO & Caddy, I didn't like the Dean 12s I tried out...but all of that was years ago.

So...anybody have some good ideas or advice? Ideally, I'd like to keep the price between $750-$2000. I'm not averse to buying via the Internet from a reputable maker. And I'm not in any hurry, either.

* I've got a good voice with a 4 1/2 octave range, but I don't want to sing for a variety of reasons, including year-round allergies that make my voice cut out unexpectedly.
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Last edited by dannyalcatraz at Oct 23, 2009,
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Quote by dannyalcatraz


Since I don't currently own a 12-string, this serves as both a goal and a way to put off a final decision. Its a stall that will give me the time to decide whether I have the skill, confidence and really, the desire to do this.



Desire is all that matters, don´t worry about skill.


My opinions:

Phantom Teardrop 12 - Never tried one.


Veillette Swift or Standard 12 - Also never tried.


Ovation Legend 12 - I really liked the Ovation, it was bright without being really piercing and had a great feel.


Rickenbacker 370/12 - Too bright and chimy for me.


Carvin - I've never tried a Carvin 12 string but their acoustics are very nice. Deeper sounding than an Ovation if you are looking for a deeper sound.

Seagull Coastline Cedar 12 - I didn't like this one simply because it reminded me too much of Appalacian folk music. I like the more pop/rock oriented ones.


custom Jon Kammerer- No opinion


Good luck!


Also as a note: you would do better posting this in the acoustic guitars section.
#3
if it were my choice i'd go for the Ric or the Carvin AE185-12, ive played the carvin before and its great and ive never heard anything bad about Rickenbackers
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#4
Ovation is a great choice. You can really get the action low on them. My Balladeer plays like an electric and the sound just rings out of it. (The techs at the store said it plays better than any they have every played or sold... bar none). The Legend' s Full Contour bowl should be comfortable and have plenty of volume unplugged, and with the OP-Pro preamp should sound excellent plugged in.

Good luck.
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Last edited by Auriemma at Oct 23, 2009,
#5
I'm sorry I wasn't clear: If anyone knows of a 12 I should consider that isn't listed above, feel free to post info about it!
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#7
I actually intended to put it on the list and just forgot!

However, I'm concerned about the Jumbo body that the Cobalt 12 is supposed to have. My current Ovation (6 string) is fairly deep, and the Seagull isn't tiny either, but from the description, Carvin's Jumbo body is a bit bigger...as I recall, they say its bigger than a typical dreadnought bodystyle.

And in all honesty, I'm a bit of a chunk already- 5'7" and 250lbs!

Which is basically why most of the guitars on that list are slimlines or solidbodies.

Still, if its a good guitar, I need to give it fair consideration.
Sturgeon's 2nd Law, a.k.a. Sturgeon's Revelation: “Ninety percent of everything is crap.”

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