#1
hi,
i was thinking, whats the advantage of having an OD over an EQ for boosting an amp? why does so many people use OD's ? what are the main advantages of either
#2
OD help for a thicker sound a sound that cuts through

EQ also helps to cut through but also changes what frequencies you want,

you might want more bass on your guitar, it cuts through less
add an OD problem solved
#3
i liek a od in front to push the preamp andf a eq in the effects loop to tweak my tone
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Quote by Martindecorum
OD help for a thicker sound a sound that cuts through

EQ also helps to cut through but also changes what frequencies you want,

you might want more bass on your guitar, it cuts through less
add an OD problem solved


on an EQ you can add more bass if you want though can't you?
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#6
Why is no one mentioning drive?

An OD has a volume and a drive knob. The volume knob is just a boost, the same as you could do with an EQ. The drive knob is actually a clipping circuit, to allow the signal to clip, or overdrive.

An EQ has no drive, only boosts, which just add power to the signal. EQs allow you to add power to different frequency ranges, instead of just an overall boost like an OD.

They are completely different, but have one feature in common... Like a lot of guitar gear; almost any pedal has a volume knob, and therefore can be used as a boost.
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i liek a od in front to push the preamp andf a eq in the effects loop to tweak my tone


this^

...in most cases.
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i liek a od in front to push the preamp andf a eq in the effects loop to tweak my tone


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but most people run there drive at 0 when boosting don't they?
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but most people run there drive at 0 when boosting don't they?


depends what sound you are after, experiment is the key
i run mine with drive on 2 closer to 3 just for some extra grit to the leads
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but most people run there drive at 0 when boosting don't they?


if you're just using it for its inherrent mid-range boost and to give your preamp a nice kick in the balls, yes. if you want the particular sound of the pedal in addition to what it does to your preamp, then also boost the gain.
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but most people run there drive at 0 when boosting don't they?

Yes, this is the same as an EQ with the volume slider all the way up and the EQ flat... People mostly do this because Bad Monkeys and TS9s and other cheap ODs make great boosts, even though their drives are a bit lacking. Basically there is no reason to by an expensive clean boost, when a cheap OD with the drive set to 0 is just as good.
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Yes, this is the same as an EQ with the volume slider all the way up and the EQ flat... People mostly do this because Bad Monkeys and TS9s and other cheap ODs make great boosts, even though their drives are a bit lacking. Basically there is no reason to by an expensive clean boost, when a cheap OD with the drive set to 0 is just as good.


negative tubestied86, on both counts. the TS9 is a perfectly fine OD in its own right, and you can't do with a bm what I can do with a durham sexdrive.
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negative tubestied86, on both counts. the TS9 is a perfectly fine OD in its own right, and you can't do with a bm what I can do with a durham sexdrive.

I haven't played with a TS9 myself, but from I've heard friends play on them and was not impressed, but that doesn't really mean anything. Also I agree that there are better and worse clean boosts, I'm just saying that's why most people use BMs and other low end ODs as clean boosts, because for the most part a boost is a boost... FOR THE MOST PART.
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I haven't played with a TS9 myself, but from I've heard friends play on them and was not impressed, but that doesn't really mean anything. Also I agree that there are better and worse clean boosts, I'm just saying that's why most people use BMs and other low end ODs as clean boosts, because for the most part a boost is a boost... FOR THE MOST PART.


nice backpedal... i'll allow it.
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nice backpedal... i'll allow it.

Don't be an ass, my previous remarks were generalizations, congrats you found exceptions to generalizations. The TS9's OD is 'a bit lacking,' by most accounts, I don't think you can argue that. As for clean boosts, I understand that with most there is a bit of coloring, and some is more desired than others, but in general terms a clean boost is a clean boost.

Why do you love arguing on here so much? You obviously just lurk until you see a slight semantics error and you pounce. Get a life.
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TS9 is lacking What?? Friends?? IF you haven't used one.......How Do you Know?
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Yes, this is the same as an EQ with the volume slider all the way up and the EQ flat... People mostly do this because Bad Monkeys and TS9s and other cheap ODs make great boosts, even though their drives are a bit lacking. Basically there is no reason to by an expensive clean boost, when a cheap OD with the drive set to 0 is just as good.


No. It is not nearly the same thing.

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Don't be an ass, my previous remarks were generalizations, congrats you found exceptions to generalizations. The TS9's OD is 'a bit lacking,' by most accounts, I don't think you can argue that. As for clean boosts, I understand that with most there is a bit of coloring, and some is more desired than others, but in general terms a clean boost is a clean boost.


Yes, the TS9 is "A Bit Lacking" I mean, SRV etc used it for that very reason. That's why it's one of the most popular pedals for tightening up a high gain amp. Because it's lacking.

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Grisky and JilaX - its pretty obvious that you're just in here to harass people and give them a hard time.

You both have been reported.


As for what tubetime was saying, I agree that the TS-9, along with most "green tubescreamer" pedals, are a bit lacking in the OD department - they can't really compare to natural tube overdrive.

And yes, JilaX, an EQ with the volume slider maxed is the same as an OD with the volume maxed and the gain cut to 0.
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Grisky and JilaX - its pretty obvious that you're just in here to harass people and give them a hard time.

You both have been reported.


As for what tubetime was saying, I agree that the TS-9, along with most "green tubescreamer" pedals, are a bit lacking in the OD department - they can't really compare to natural tube overdrive.

And yes, JilaX, an EQ with the volume slider maxed is the same as an OD with the volume maxed and the gain cut to 0.


Nothing compare to sheer Volume Or natural OD with tube amps. I just diagree the Ts9 is lacking. I've owned my fair share of OD pedals and the Greeny is still on my board. Again It's just Opinion no one is right or wrong......Unless you haven't tried the pedal.
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#21
i prefer to have an eq boost so i can set it to effect some frequencies more than others especially mids, i get a better boosted tone that way
it's all just preference though
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#22
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No. It is not nearly the same thing.


Yes, the TS9 is "A Bit Lacking" I mean, SRV etc used it for that very reason. That's why it's one of the most popular pedals for tightening up a high gain amp. Because it's lacking.


MMjohn: I have heard a TS-9 being used... I just haven't had the chance to mess with settings myself. I think I am still allowed to have an opinion. Just because you have one doesn't mean no one can comment on it. 'A bit lacking' is not a very harsh critique anyway. I would say a lot of really good gear is still 'a bit lacking.' But at least you acknowledge that this is opinion, so I think we are in agreement, really.

Jilax: You are trying to tell me that SRV used stock TS-9s... That's a joke. Listen, I said it was a bit lacking, if it isn't then why do TS-808s and other more expensive ODs exist? I'm not saying more expensive is better, just that the TS-9 is obviously not THE OD, so some must think it is 'a bit lacking.' Besides, the DS-1 is one of the most popular distortion pedals so does that mean it is perfect?
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