#1
Hey all, I'm just curious as to what you all think of this campaign to ban airbrushing on models and in magazines and such (http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/top-stories/2009/09/22/french-politicians-want-ban-on-airbrushed-photographs-of-models-115875-21691421/)

I personally feel as if it would do some good to the well-being of young girls. I feel that it would encourage them to develop their self esteem in a more healthy environment and realize that imperfections are natural. I just would like to discuss the issue a bit because I'm thinking about using the topic for an argumentative essay.. Can't decide if I can find anything better..


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#3
It's kinda silly, because it's really the parents who should be teaching their kids that nobody looks like that, innit?

A modeling weight minimum is a much better idea.

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It's kinda silly, because it's really the parents who should be teaching their kids that nobody looks like that, innit?

A modeling weight minimum is a much better idea.


Although that would be ideal, it is definitely not wise to rely only on the parents for teaching self image. Just think of all the times that you have gotten away with watching porn regardless of how many times your parents warned you not to. In the same regard, young girls are constantly comparing themselves to whatever image it is that they see, so even if their parents were to influence them against it, they would continue to make comparisons.


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Although that would be ideal, it is definitely not wise to rely only on the parents for teaching self image. Just think of all the times that you have gotten away with watching porn regardless of how many times your parents warned you not to. In the same regard, young girls are constantly comparing themselves to whatever image it is that they see, so even if their parents were to influence them against it, they would continue to make comparisons.

Pr0n: telling an adolescent not to do something they want to do, and see no reason not to do.
Fake beauty: A worldview and self-perception.

Analogy fails. I'm not against this idea, by the way, just somewhere in the middle.

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#7
As much as I despise it, I don't know if it would be fair or reasonable to ban it.
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#8
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Pr0n: telling an adolescent not to do something they want to do, and see no reason not to do.
Fake beauty: A worldview and self-perception.

Analogy fails. I'm not against this idea, by the way, just somewhere in the middle.


I understand where you're coming from, but what I meant by my analogy was more along the lines of regardless what our parents tell us, we tend to think for ourselves the majority of the time. And I think we would all agree that not all parents are capable of effectively influencing our ideas. I've come across many parents who fail at instilling within their children a sense of positive self-concept, so of course they would be unable of teaching their children the skill of differentiating between realistic beauty and unrealistic or unhealthy beauty.

Anyway.. here is the Ralph Lauren model, Filippa Hamiliton. She was supposedly "too heavy" so they airbrushed her to look absolutely ridiculous:


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#9
If anyone bothers to read the article, they'll notice they aren't trying to ban it. They want to make it mandatory to put a notice on the photograph saying it was altered.

Fine with me.
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#10
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If anyone bothers to read the article, they'll notice they aren't trying to ban it. They want to make it mandatory to put a notice on the photograph saying it was altered.

Fine with me.
Yeah that sounds like a really good idea to me now.
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#11
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I understand where you're coming from, but what I meant by my analogy was more along the lines of regardless what our parents tell us, we tend to think for ourselves the majority of the time. And I think we would all agree that not all parents are capable of effectively influencing our ideas. I've come across many parents who fail at instilling within their children a sense of positive self-concept, so of course they would be unable of teaching their children the skill of differentiating between realistic beauty and unrealistic or unhealthy beauty.

Are you joking? Everyone is very much shaped by the lessons of their parents.

Anyway.. here is the Ralph Lauren model, Filippa Hamiliton. She was supposedly "too heavy" so they airbrushed her to look absolutely ridiculous:


That's not airbrushing.
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#12
^Photoshopping. Whatever.

I like it. I think that the natural look is better. I don't even look at models anymore, really. Normal people are way better.
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Anyway.. here is the Ralph Lauren model, Filippa Hamiliton. She was supposedly "too heavy" so they airbrushed her to look absolutely ridiculous:
[*picture*]

That's disgusting, in all honesty. I would never have sex with that thing on the left.

Quite frankly, I'd prefer they just ban it instead of putting a warning on it. Nobody reads pictures. They'll just look at it and think the same thing they would if it wasn't altered.

Normally I'm against banning pretty much anything, but shooping models to look "better" has no merit as being art, good-looking, or good for society in general.
#14
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Quite frankly, I'd prefer they just ban it instead of putting a warning on it. Nobody reads pictures. They'll just look at it and think the same thing they would if it wasn't altered.

Good point. It just gives the photographers even more license to retouch the hell out of everything, because they're gonna put that warning on there anyway, so it doesn't have to look realistic.

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