#1
I have been playing a Fender Stratocaster HSS (MIM) for almost 2 years and I plan on getting a Schecter Hellraiser C-1.

- What are some of the main differences will I notice?

- Is there a jump in quality going to the C-1 since it costs a few hundred dollars more?


I'm looking for more of a metal guitar. I play through a Vox Valvetronix 30W amp.

Thx
#2
If you're looking for a metal guitar, you've definetly found a good guitar. The Schecter has active pups opposed to the passive ones on ur fender, which are best explained here: https://www.ultimate-guitar.com/forum/archive/index.php/t-459770.html

I havent personally played a strat b4 :-/ so I can't rele tell u what the differences would b but the hellraiser c-1 is definetly a good guitar
#3
Quote by Don223
I have been playing a Fender Stratocaster HSS (MIM) for almost 2 years and I plan on getting a Schecter Hellraiser C-1.

- What are some of the main differences will I notice?

- Is there a jump in quality going to the C-1 since it costs a few hundred dollars more?


I'm looking for more of a metal guitar. I play through a Vox Valvetronix 30W amp.

Thx

I love that guitar.
If you're looking for a good metal sound, that guitar is the right one for you. If you play a lot of songs with palm muting, you might want to go with the one with the Floyd Rose system. I find that one to be a lot more comfortable than the one without.
#4
Quote by HailSlaytan
If you play a lot of songs with palm muting, you might want to go with the one with the Floyd Rose system. I find that one to be a lot more comfortable than the one without.



Hmmm. interesting. I'll have to try them both out. Why do I hear a lot of people saying to avoid FR systems? Pain in the ass to change strings?
#5
Quote by Don223
I have been playing a Fender Stratocaster HSS (MIM) for almost 2 years and I plan on getting a Schecter Hellraiser C-1.

- What are some of the main differences will I notice?

- Is there a jump in quality going to the C-1 since it costs a few hundred dollars more?


I'm looking for more of a metal guitar. I play through a Vox Valvetronix 30W amp.

Thx

It's a good guitar for sure, but hmm
If you're getting the one with a floyd rose, then obviously thats a difference youll notice.
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The schecter has a fairly thick neck as well..
umm..mahogany body?
#8
Quote by Pac_man0123
In my experience, a Valvetronix won't get you a very satisfying metal tone.

I get a great metal tone on mine, but I wasn't happy with it until I changed the speaker
#9
Quote by Pac_man0123
In my experience, a Valvetronix won't get you a very satisfying metal tone.

I disagree.
Gear:
Guitars
ESP LTD M-1000 Deluxe w/ FR
Hamer XT-series SATQ
Fender Stratocaster
'75 Fender F-35 Acoustic
Amp
Vox VT15
Pedals
535Q Crybaby Wah
#10
Quote by Pac_man0123
In my experience, a Valvetronix won't get you a very satisfying metal tone.



I'm actually quite satisfied with how my Vox sounds. The "UK Modern" sounds pretty heavy with a humbucker. I've only got the Vox and a Roland Micro Cube. I'm sure if I tried different amps I may not be as satisfied with the Vox. Sometimes ignorance is bliss.

Got any amp recommendations?
#11
Just to be sure we're talking about the same model amp, this is what I have. Notice the "Amp" dial on the left. About the 2 O'Clock position is the "UK Modern" setting.


Last edited by Don223 at Oct 23, 2009,
#12
I would simply go play an active pup guitar like that Schecter with a Valvetronix first. I think they can do passable metal tones on there own. I'd look at the new 6505+ 112 combo that is hitting the streets soon.


PS: I want a C-1 too.
Last edited by 311ZOSOVHJH at Oct 23, 2009,
#13
Quote by 311ZOSOVHJH
I'd look at the new 6505+ 112 combo that is hitting the streets soon.


You're talking about the Peavey 1x12 , right?
#14
It's a good guitar, and I too went from a MIM HSS Strat to a Hellraiser. The hellraiser neck is much thinner than a strat neck, but not as thin as an ibanez. My hands are fairly large with long fingers though.

Definitely into getting a new amp...used ones are dirt cheap sometimes (and make sure you get teh t00bz).
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#15
Right. the 112.

My thing on guitars is if you are happy with the feel there are other things to spend your money on. I have an HSS strat but upgraded the humbucker. But did that after I upgraded my amp. If you just don't like the Strat then by all means find a guitar that feels right. You'll play more if you like your guitar. I think the VT is a fine amp but if you are wanting a better tone, a new guitar will not automatically fix things.
#16
If you're looking for a new guitar, you're looking more for playability than sound. The C-1 would have an advantage with its 24 frets, possibly a Floyd Rose for crazy tremolo fun, and probably a thinner neck. This is all better for metal, playing fast solos and doing pinch harmonics and all. And of course, the pickups are more suited for metal.
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#18
Quote by ChecKxMaTe77
I disagree.


+1

Even using a sss strat i could get a reasonable metal tone from it. Its a good amp for the money.

(Please dont use this post to start to a "strat cant do metal flame war...")
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