#1
In English we've been split into groups and we have to do a speech on a topic concerning today's people.
Our group chose media and I've been the one nominated to talk about the positives of the media.

So far i've got:
-Media helps people find out what's going on around the world
-Media gives another person's opinon on a topic
-Media helps you make educated decisions
-Media can influence us to do the right thing

Any ideas?
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#2
If that is the point you're trying to make, do not mention Fox news at all.
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#3
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If that is the point you're trying to make, do not mention Fox news at all.


This exactly.

The media is a disgusting machine that not only controls the minds of so many young people, but also contributes to the closed minded-ness of many older people. There is almost nothing good to say about it. We fuel it, and then proceed to fear it. It destroys us.

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#4
Not to be harsh or anything, but media isn't actually informing people on what's going. I'd say your four arguments are biased. But yeah, it's not like there's anything good about the media anyways.
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This exactly.

The media is a disgusting machine that not only controls the minds of so many young people, but also contributes to the closed minded-ness of many older people. There is almost nothing good to say about it. We fuel it, and then proceed to fear it. It destroys us.


Says the man typing on a media device.

Good lord, everyone in this thread sounds like a teenage rebel. The media isn't inherently bad. Good things it does, it informs us of current events, it entertains us. It provides a release or escapism. Now if you're referring to the media as the news it does inform us of things, even if there is a bias if there weren't a media you wouldn't know about world events. You couldn't gather facts to make your decisions, without media we'd be stuck in a medieval world before the printing press. We'd all probably not be able to read because we'd have nothing to read.
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#6
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Says the man typing on a media device.


You know it's not because internet is used for medias, that it is a media device. 99% of us for personnal reasons and goals(chatting, videogames, music).
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You know it's not because internet is used for medias, that it is a media device. 99% of us for personnal reasons and goals(chatting, videogames, music).


Videogames and music are media, dumbass.
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Videogames and music are media, dumbass.


Media=propaganda. That's not what music and videogames are about; at least not the ones I play and listen to.

The very principe of media is to sell stuff(whether they are ideas, or products). Is it really what that guy's doing?
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#9
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Media=propaganda. That's not what music and videogames are about; at least not the ones I play and listen to.

The very principe of media is to sell stuff(whether they are ideas, or products).


You're an idiot. Music, games, tv, all that stuff is media. Media is basically anything that reaches to the people.

Also, your antimediatic games or whatever are just as much propaganda as an Uncle Sam poster. Everything has a bias. Things that say buck the system are propaganda against the system. You're always being pushed to one side or another on anything.
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Media=propaganda. That's not what music and videogames are about; at least not the ones I play and listen to.

The very principe of media is to sell stuff(whether they are ideas, or products). Is it really what that guy's doing?



Isn't that what music and videogame companies main goals are?
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Isn't that what music and videogame companies main goals are?


This too. Adam Smith said something along the lines of the baker doesn't make bread out of the goodness of his heart.
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You're an idiot. Music, games, tv, all that stuff is media. Media is basically anything that reaches to the people.


I am an idiot, yet I am the one acting like an ass. Yeah, right. Meda is not about the device used; it's about the message you try and spread. To a certain extent I understand medias can be used to spread anti-mediatic ideas, but still.

That might be what media was years ago, but it's not what it is today. Today media is about spreading the idea of being a blinded, deaf and a mute sheep. MUCH different from the music and videogames I like.

Media isn't necessarly about a product itself; it's about the actions taken to sell that idea/product. The videogame itself isn't a media; what they do to sell it is. Same applies for music.
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#13
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I am an idiot, yet I am the one acting like an ass. Yeah, right. Meda is not about the device used; it's about the message you try and spread. To a certain extent I understand medias can be used to spread anti-mediatic ideas, but still.

That might be what media was years ago, but it's not what it is today. Today media is about spreading the idea of being a blinded, deaf and a mute sheep. MUCH different from the music and videogames I like.


Good lord, you don't understand what media is. It isn't about a message. Media isn't a being with a message, media is everything we absorb basically, books, magazines, newspaper, videogames, radio, music, movies, television are all media. The internet, it's media. You're thinking of the press.
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Good lord, you don't understand what media is. It isn't about a message. Media isn't a being with a message, media is everything we absorb basically, books, magazines, newspaper, videogames, radio, music, movies, television are all media. The internet, it's media. You're thinking of the press.


Media isn't necessarly about a product itself; it's about the actions taken to sell that idea/product. The videogame itself isn't a media; what they do to sell it is. Same applies for music.

Edit: Unless the music or game are really trying to make you change your mind. But that's clearly not the fact with most of them; they're just about having fun and enjoying your time. At least, that's the way I see it.

They way I see there'd be two definition to the word media;

Media 1=Making you act the way they want you to act. Making you buy the products they want you to buy. That's the "media" I was talking about.

Media 2=Just about anything that can possibly affect your opinions(friends, family, etc etc etc).
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Media isn't necessarly about a product itself; it's about the actions taken to sell that idea/product. The videogame itself isn't a media; what they do to sell it is. Same applies for music.

Edit: Unless the music or game are really trying to make you change your mind. But that's clearly not the fact with most of them; they're just about having fun and enjoying your time. At least, that's the way I see it.


Well yeah, but even entertainment is media. You don't understand, media isn't meaning that you're trying to convey a message, that is art, media is things that have a large audience, such as the things I listed. Pretty much the things we absorb are forms of media, it isn't an opinion or anything, that is what media is.
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#16
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Not to be harsh or anything, but media isn't actually informing people on what's going. I'd say your four arguments are biased. But yeah, it's not like there's anything good about the media anyways.


Yeah thats my proplem, we have to do a panel discussion and annother guy has the negetives. Thats why I have to be biased.

I'm stuck trying to think of many positves. anything I think of will be countered easily.
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Yeah thats my proplem, we have to do a panel discussion and annother guy has the negetives. Thats why I have to be biased.

I'm stuck trying to think of many positves. anything I think of will be countered easily.


Is it a debate? Well you could always say that he got his information from a media source and that without the media he'd not even be able to participate in said debate.
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Well yeah, but even entertainment is media. You don't understand, media isn't meaning that you're trying to convey a message, that is art, media is things that have a large audience, such as the things I listed. Pretty much the things we absorb are forms of media, it isn't an opinion or anything, that is what media is.


I understand what you mean. In that sense, just about everything is media.

The meaning I have for media is a tad different; it's more about the control over what you should see/buy or not. For example, watch TV. Everything you see is pre-filtered. You won't ever see anything "anti-society". On the other hand, internet isn't pre-filtered. You could make websites about just anything you want, and noone could stop you. To me, media is about selling you an idea. Not that your definition is wrong; it's probably the "right" one.

All I'm saying is, internet, altho it can be used as a media device, is not strictly one. Say you're chatting with your friend on MSN and listening to some music. Sure, the band you are listening to probably has a large audience, but are you personnally using it as a media device?

I'm having a hard time explaining what I mean, but I have a really tight idea on what media is(for me). Maybe I should change the word over or something, but I reckon a lot of people will understand the word just like I do.

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Is it a debate? Well you could always say that he got his information from a media source and that without the media he'd not even be able to participate in said debate.


That's the problem; the word media itself can be interpreted in a lot of different ways. But since it's just something for school, just pull something out of your arse and it should do.
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