#1
right now my setup is guitar -> tonelab le -> PA/headphones.

im looking for an amp to use with my tonelab. preferably with an fx loop and preamp out/SLR for going into the PA. my idea is an amp that can cover all the same bases as the tonelab, but also sqeeze the most out of the tonelab.

i realized the other day, that if my tonelab breaks down, im unable to play. i play at church and they like to keep the stage noise as low as possible, so getting good overdrive from my v18 wont be possible.

i was thinking that the line 6 spider valve mkII 1x12 combo would be ideal, but im concerned about the 40w being too loud. with all the modelling abilities, is it possible to get all the high gain sounds without cranking the amp?

thanks for the advice!
My Rig

Epiphone Les Paul Standard Plus Top Honey Burst
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#3
the blackstar doesnt have modelling. nice amp though!
My Rig

Epiphone Les Paul Standard Plus Top Honey Burst
Fender MIM Stratocaster Ash Natural
Crate v18 2x12
Eleven Rack
Catalinbread Dirty Little Secret
BBE Sonic Stomp
BMP with Tone Wicker
Dunlop Cry Baby
#5
im trying to give myself a 'backup' incase the tonelab goes belly up.
My Rig

Epiphone Les Paul Standard Plus Top Honey Burst
Fender MIM Stratocaster Ash Natural
Crate v18 2x12
Eleven Rack
Catalinbread Dirty Little Secret
BBE Sonic Stomp
BMP with Tone Wicker
Dunlop Cry Baby
#7
lol, i would hope it wouldnt, its built like a tank.

whats your experience with the ht-5? do you own one?
My Rig

Epiphone Les Paul Standard Plus Top Honey Burst
Fender MIM Stratocaster Ash Natural
Crate v18 2x12
Eleven Rack
Catalinbread Dirty Little Secret
BBE Sonic Stomp
BMP with Tone Wicker
Dunlop Cry Baby
#8
Quote by chagmaier
lol, i would hope it wouldnt, its built like a tank.

whats your experience with the ht-5? do you own one?

i'm going to be trying one out later this week, it's supposed to be a good copy of a marshall, and is highly recomended on ug
#9
anyone have any experience with the spider valve?
My Rig

Epiphone Les Paul Standard Plus Top Honey Burst
Fender MIM Stratocaster Ash Natural
Crate v18 2x12
Eleven Rack
Catalinbread Dirty Little Secret
BBE Sonic Stomp
BMP with Tone Wicker
Dunlop Cry Baby
#10
bump
My Rig

Epiphone Les Paul Standard Plus Top Honey Burst
Fender MIM Stratocaster Ash Natural
Crate v18 2x12
Eleven Rack
Catalinbread Dirty Little Secret
BBE Sonic Stomp
BMP with Tone Wicker
Dunlop Cry Baby
#11
Spider Valve is good, but I wouldn't buy an amp JUST because you may need the fx if the tonelab breaks. I say you go with a non-modelling tube amp like the HT5, Bugera V22, etc. The Spider Valve is a great amp though.

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#12
thanks JC, all the reviews i read say how loud it is. im not doubting this since its 40w. but ive seen youtube vids claiming apartment volume levels with great tone. any insight?
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Epiphone Les Paul Standard Plus Top Honey Burst
Fender MIM Stratocaster Ash Natural
Crate v18 2x12
Eleven Rack
Catalinbread Dirty Little Secret
BBE Sonic Stomp
BMP with Tone Wicker
Dunlop Cry Baby
#13
Get a good clean amp. JC 120, Peavey Classic, Roland Bluescube, Fender Frontman 212. The nicer the clean channel the better tone you're going to get when you use your effects board.
#14
Quote by DiminuendoX
Get a good clean amp. JC 120, Peavey Classic, Roland Bluescube, Fender Frontman 212. The nicer the clean channel the better tone you're going to get when you use your effects board.

+1

I'll be honest to say that the Spider Valve is an amp which performs best when you plug a dry guitar signal in, no effects.

Get a good clean amp if you want your dirt to come from pedals and use lots of effects.

To get good tones at bedroom/apartment levels with the Spider Valve, dim the channel volume (since its modelling, the channel volume will not impact the level of overdrive in the signal since its a linear change in sound), then turn up the master volume to get the tubes cooking. That'll get you good tone at lower volumes.
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#15
If you want ALL the effects of the Tonelab, you might as well get a Vox Valvetronix. It's got all the same stuff, just in an amp instead of an effects box.
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