so I think I know why I cant find bandmates on the same musical page as me...

#1
Its not that Im not finding good players (though that hasnt been happening often it does).

most of the people I find arent interested in playing the same genre as I am, and when they are, they do it in entirely another style. The genre Im talking about is Metal, which Im sure all of you UGers know has a billion sub-denominations and styles.

so recently I was thinking about how most of the bands I like tend to come from certain parts of the world, and then I realized, 99% of it was from europe, and a great deal of it from Britain.

I then noticed that the bands other people I tend to find like actually are coming from here in the US -- Megadeth, Metallica, Anthrax, Korn, pantera, machine head, etc.

so I looked it up on google, and indeed others have noticed this difference in metal scenes.

see Im looking to essentially start a band that is influenced by a LOT more of whats going on in europe, as in all honesty, I can only stomach a small amount of the majority of american metal. I can listen to a little bit of thrash here and there, but not much else, and not too much of any of it.

sure there's still a fair amount of other metal coming out of the US, but this is just something I observed in a majority of it.

I like the variation of fast paced and slow riffs, intricate complexity of the instruments, possibly difficult yet melodic solos possibly simple just not dumbed down or noisy, a wide ranged vocalist with NO Screaming (I HATE the screaming crap from thrash and black metal, as an effect its cool, but all the time? come on.)

so am I the only one looking for this in this country? I want to start a band rooted in NWOBHM, Power Metal, and progressive metal. I'm in the US in upstate New York.

If I am, then I've just found another reason I dont fit in here and want to emigrate out of here...
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#2
Try finding band mates who want to play downtempo experimental drone, post rock and ambient electronica and then come back to me and tell me its hard to find band members.
#3
Diversity of influences is always good. For example, I can't stand most of the American Metalcore scene, and the solo guitarist in my band can't get enough of it. When we combine his stuff with my stuff, we get a load of great stuff.
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Try finding band mates who want to play downtempo experimental drone, post rock and ambient electronica and then come back to me and tell me its hard to find band members.

I've been looking to form a post-rock band for over two years, I can't find anyone who'd bother. People just find it boring, and I love it.
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Try finding band mates who want to play downtempo experimental drone, post rock and ambient electronica and then come back to me and tell me its hard to find band members.


I'll join.
#6
diffrenet influences are good, i used to be in a band where:

Drummer: Funk, Reggae, Rap
Bassist: Power Metal, Death Metal, etc.
Me: Pop punk, Hard Rock
Vocalist: Pop

we had good material, splitted up because of the diversity of musical tastes, but yeah, we had good stuff
#7
Learn your (sub)genres better. A band that sounds like the description you gave would be Kamelot and they're American.

It's not European and American metal.
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#9
It's gonna be impossible to find people that like exactly what you like. In the end, you don't want someone who is like you because it makes you guys more narrow-minded. You don't wanna sound like every band you're influenced by. That's stupid and naive. You have to mix it up and create your own band's style. I'm influenced by metalcore, groove metal, and different types of techno (hardstyle and trance mostly) in my guitar playing. That's weird as hell I think.
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Learn your (sub)genres better. A band that sounds like the description you gave would be Kamelot and they're American.

It's not European and American metal.


I know, and I like kamelot a great amount

thats why I said largely and by observation. there are exceptions, and there is some of it coming out of the US... but if you look at all of the stuff coming from here its few and far in between.

Im just considering that it may be that Im the minority around here, which makes things difficult at best.

and btw, check power metal on wikipedia, even THEY noticed that the style Im looking at is based in europe, but has SOME offshoots in the US.
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Haha live in Philly?


lol I'd also love to work with you as I have a lot of post-rock ideas too, but the thing is im a state over from ya lol. If I still lived in Pennsylvania I'd jam with you, but i'm in upstate new york these days
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Try finding band mates who want to play downtempo experimental drone, post rock and ambient electronica and then come back to me and tell me its hard to find band members.


Add IDM to that list. If you don't live in London, it's nigh impossible to accomplish an IDM collective of more than 1 person(s).
#14
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What screaming in thrash?

Thrash, if anything, just has a somewhat harsh voice.

Yeah it's not screaming. It's more like yelling with a harsh voice. Like Slayer and Machine Head.
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try finding guys that are into Classicore, I've yet to meet one even on the internet
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try finding guys that are into Classicore, I've yet to meet one even on the internet

XD XD XD XD LOL . WTF IS classicore??? Is it even rock? Sounds really cool, but it could be terrible. Classical music + metal + epic breakdowns = WIN!!

TS you're lucky. This guy's genre doesn't exist.
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#17
I cant either. No one can see my musical vision and when I describe it they tell me they want to play some geriatric type of music that sounds like everything else going on in my local music scene.
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#18
I'm kinda with you man, but I'm on the other side of the States.
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I really doubt that you can't find any musicians with that vision in New York. Keep on looking.
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Try finding enough people who want to play funk/jazz/metal/punk/reggae/carnatic to start a band. I've found one person who wants to do it. Everyone else is just like WTF brah.
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Quote by spiroth10
I like the variation of fast paced and slow riffs, intricate complexity of the instruments, possibly difficult yet melodic solos possibly simple just not dumbed down or noisy, a wide ranged vocalist with NO Screaming (I HATE the screaming crap from thrash and black metal, as an effect its cool, but all the time? come on.)

so am I the only one looking for this in this country? I want to start a band rooted in NWOBHM, Power Metal, and progressive metal. I'm in the US in upstate New York.

If I am, then I've just found another reason I dont fit in here and want to emigrate out of here...

So basically you want to move to indiana and start a power metal band with me. Ok, Come on over.
#22
thats similar to what i want to = D

it also sounds like you should give dream theater and mastodon a try, both American.
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try finding guys that are into Classicore, I've yet to meet one even on the internet


is that an actual Genre?
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Diversity of influences is always good. For example, I can't stand most of the American Metalcore scene, and the solo guitarist in my band can't get enough of it. When we combine his stuff with my stuff, we get a load of great stuff.


This one.

Why not play with people that are good and conjoin ideas to make your own unique sound? That's better than sounding like some power metal that's been done a thousand times before.
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classic core.

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#26
Mathcore is the same way. It's tough as shit to find someone who likes it and can actually play well.
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Try and find any band members in remote Yorkshire...
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I like the variation of fast paced and slow riffs, intricate complexity of the instruments, possibly difficult yet melodic solos possibly simple just not dumbed down or noisy, a wide ranged vocalist with NO Screaming (I HATE the screaming crap from thrash and black metal, as an effect its cool, but all the time? come on.)



Sounds kinda like "... And Justice For All" considering the riffs n' stuff.
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try finding guys that are into Classicore, I've yet to meet one even on the internet


Sounds a bit like Classic rock with breakdowns and screaming. Or neoclassical shred w/breakdowns. Either way, I'd form a band with you.
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Musical Diversity = Originality

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Drummer: Funk, Reggae, Rap
Bassist: Power Metal, Death Metal, etc.
Me: Pop punk, Hard Rock
Vocalist: Pop


It should have gone like this.

Drummer: Power Metal, Death Metal, etc.
Bassist: Funk, Reggae, Rap
Power Metal, Death Metal, etc.
Me: Pop
Vocalist: Pop punk, Hard Rock
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#32
My band are at completely different ends of the spectrum!

Me (Vocals, Guitar) - Alt. Rock, Shoegaze
Bassist - Jazz, Funk
Drummer - Progressive Metal

If you click the link in my sig, I think you'll agree that diversity is GOOD.
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#35
Damn, my problem is everyone i find WANTS to play Metal, and we want nothing to do with that sound
either way, is Metal the only genre you can play?? Open your style, it will creatly imrpove your playing if you learn some blues, classical, country, everything you can man, not just Metal. And I seriously doubt you're just so good that nobody wants to play with you, the better you are the easier it is to find good musicians, lose your ego
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#36
Try finding some people who want to make pop music who aren't complete arseholes.
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My band are at completely different ends of the spectrum!

Me (Vocals, Guitar) - Alt. Rock, Shoegaze
Bassist - Jazz, Funk
Drummer - Progressive Metal

If you click the link in my sig, I think you'll agree that diversity is GOOD.


i wouldn't.
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