#1
i have a couple of song specific effects questions.

1. is there any effect which gives a kind of dual guitar effect. ie if the actual recording had two guitars playing the same part at the same time (saturday night special - lynyrd skynyrd), can a single guitar emulate that with a pedal?

2. martin barre's second solo on jethro tull's 'to cry you a song' - with a kinda ringing feel - what effect is used here?

appreciate the feedback.
#2
1. have you completely forgotten what a chorus pedal is? a good vintage on will make it sound exactly like two guitars playing.

2 nvm
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i have a couple of song specific effects questions.

1. is there any effect which gives a kind of dual guitar effect. ie if the actual recording had two guitars playing the same part at the same time (saturday night special - lynyrd skynyrd), can a single guitar emulate that with a pedal?

2. martin barre's second solo on jethro tull's 'to cry you a song' - with a kinda ringing feel - what effect is used here?

appreciate the feedback.


1. A harmonizer?
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1. A harmonizer?



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http://eu.musicianuniversity.com/Guitars/DigiTech-HARMONY_MAN-Guitar_Effects_Pedal.html

http://www.guitarpedalstore.com/guitar-effects-pedals.asp/pid_12094/productname_Digitech-HarmonyMan-Intelligent-Pitch-Shifter

A chorus will create feel that you have a fatter tone because the chorus will fill in the sound-scape.

In comparison the Digitech harmonizer is designed to sound as though there's another guitar playing above or below you. Far more effective in creating a feel that there's more than one guitar playing.

If you want to create the impression of more than one guitar, having your signal played a pitch higher or lower is more powerful than having your signal modulated slightly.

Spend more time playing your guitar than calling fails on the internet. Your tone towards the TS has been condescending from your first post, you may be familiar with effects, but the TS might be new to effects.
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1. have you completely forgotten what a chorus pedal is? a good vintage on will make it sound exactly like two guitars playing.

2 nvm



It's also entirely possible that he's never had the opportunity to learn what this is.

TS, a chorus effect is created by taking your guitars signal, then making a copy of it that sounds at a slightly different frequency. A slightly out of tune copy. It sounds to me like this is what you're talking about.
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no ur just a douche, chorus literally means the sound of two instruments playing, although modern medals beef up ur tone and add delay to the second sound, vintage good ones, will do simple duplicate ur sound with a slight tonal difference so u can hear there is two. a harmonizer creates a second sound that is an octave above the original, go away, im right ur wrong.
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no ur just a douche, chorus literally means the sound of two instruments playing, although modern medals beef up ur tone and add delay to the second sound, vintage good ones, will do simple duplicate ur sound with a slight tonal difference so u can hear there is two. a harmonizer creates a second sound that is an octave above the original, go away, im right ur wrong.


Thanks for the "douche".

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a chorus usually won't get the job done. yes, it does simulate 2 guitars playing at the same time but the delay is so close it just seems like your sound is thicker. What you really want is a harmonizer. It allows the 2 different guitar sounds to be heard clearly.

and bananahammock, GTFO.

EDIT: basically just what ragingkitty said.
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no ur just a douche, chorus literally means the sound of two instruments playing, although modern medals beef up ur tone and add delay to the second sound, vintage good ones, will do simple duplicate ur sound with a slight tonal difference so u can hear there is two. a harmonizer creates a second sound that is an octave above the original, go away, im right ur wrong.


nope, you re wrong. a harmonizer can add whatever signal, even in unison with your guitar. look at boss ps-5.
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nope, you re wrong. a harmonizer can add whatever signal, even in unison with your guitar. look at boss ps-5.


this. i can make unison harmonizations with my lexicon, sounds EXACTLY like two guitars playing the same part. i can even **** with the onboard filters to make it sound like two different guitars playing the same part.

and banana, you're a moron. chorus is a time based oscilation effect. it's essentially the same thing as a flanger. does a flanger sound like two guitars playing the same part?
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Quote by vtpcnk
i have a couple of song specific effects questions.

1. is there any effect which gives a kind of dual guitar effect. ie if the actual recording had two guitars playing the same part at the same time (saturday night special - lynyrd skynyrd), can a single guitar emulate that with a pedal?

2. martin barre's second solo on jethro tull's 'to cry you a song' - with a kinda ringing feel - what effect is used here?

appreciate the feedback.

1. Forget about the Harmonisers and Pitch shifters.
If you want things to sound like you have a second guitar playing the exact same thing as you then set a delay, not reverb, of 7ms and mix it at 50/50 for signal.

2. I would believe the effect in that song is a Harmoniser or Pitch shifter of some sort or hes just multi tracked 3 different layers.
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a harmonizer creates a second sound that is an octave above the original, go away, im right ur wrong.

Pretty sure that's an octaver dude. A harmonizer HARMONIZES the notes, ie plays notes which HARMONIZE the note you're playing, can you see why it's called a harmonizer now?
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Thanks for the "douche".

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You reported him for that ... =.=
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You reported him for that ... =.=


I definitely would have. With a tone as condescending as his, who wouldn't?
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yeah, that guy was clearly a troll. it's one thing to be a dick when provoked. it's quite another to walk into a thread with that attitude... and on top of it to be wrong.
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Clearly i didnt read the whole thing ... thought it was just the one post by bananahammock ...
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Clearly i didnt read the whole thing ... thought it was just the one post by bananahammock ...


I'm not one to be a rule Nazi... but that 13 year old prick was just looking to someone kick his arse.
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http://eu.musicianuniversity.com/Guitars/DigiTech-HARMONY_MAN-Guitar_Effects_Pedal.html

http://www.guitarpedalstore.com/guitar-effects-pedals.asp/pid_12094/productname_Digitech-HarmonyMan-Intelligent-Pitch-Shifter

A chorus will create feel that you have a fatter tone because the chorus will fill in the sound-scape.

In comparison the Digitech harmonizer is designed to sound as though there's another guitar playing above or below you. Far more effective in creating a feel that there's more than one guitar playing.

If you want to create the impression of more than one guitar, having your signal played a pitch higher or lower is more powerful than having your signal modulated slightly.

Spend more time playing your guitar than calling fails on the internet. Your tone towards the TS has been condescending from your first post, you may be familiar with effects, but the TS might be new to effects.



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