#1
Now in my last thread (removed now) We discussed Rig options and choices. The clean that the Thread seemed to choose was a Twin Reverb but The question is. How many of you fellow UGers use a clean amp with pedals to acheive your tones? Or do Some use cleans and dirty amps? Or just dirty? People from the previous thread are open to add because I am sure I have missed somethings. This can apply to any genre.
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Quote by The3rdMugician
Now in my last thread (removed now) We discussed Rig options and choices. The clean that the Thread seemed to choose was a Twin Reverb but The question is. How many of you fellow UGers use a clean amp with pedals to acheive your tones? Or do Some use cleans and dirty amps? Or just dirty? People from the previous thread are open to add because I am sure I have missed somethings. This can apply to any genre.

In the last thread a question came up that neither me nor the originator of the question could answer; can you, with the right pedals, get a top notch metal tone out of, for argument's sake, a Twin Reverb.
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#3
Of course all posts will be pure oppinion in this thread but If you do use cleans and have happen to stumble across some pedals that give great distortion, reverb, tremolo or any other effect that in you oppinion replecates that of an Amp. Feel free to tell us about it
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#4
Quote by tubetime86
In the last thread a question came up that neither me nor the originator of the question could answer; can you, with the right pedals, get a top notch metal tone out of, for argument's sake, a Twin Reverb.

Tube time your much better with words than myself
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Tube time your much better with words than myself

Its all good, man. I do a lot of writing for my work, so I'm used to it.
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#6
The Rothwell Hellbender is an amazing "marshall in a box". I know it's a pretty steep claim but on ProGuitarShop.com's YouTube profile they have done a direct comparison to a cranked 50w plexi.

Needless to say, although the amp does sound a tiny bit better, all the characteristics are there.

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The Rothwell Hellbender is an amazing "marshall in a box". I know it's a pretty steep claim but on ProGuitarShop.com's YouTube profile they have done a direct comparison to a cranked 50w plexi.

Needless to say, although the amp does sound a tiny bit better, all the characteristics are there.

What amp are they running it into? I don't have youtube here at work, sorry.
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The Rothwell Hellbender is an amazing "marshall in a box". I know it's a pretty steep claim but on ProGuitarShop.com's YouTube profile they have done a direct comparison to a cranked 50w plexi.

Needless to say, although the amp does sound a tiny bit better, all the characteristics are there.


Ya know i watched that recently and they did sound incredibly close, but i cant for the life of me find one of those damn boxes for sale. i found some in pounds but was to lazy to covert to see what it would run me.

Iv wondered about preamp pedals though as well thought. Iv heard that the EHX english muffin can give some preety authentic british sounds
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Ya know i watched that recently and they did sound incredibly close, but i cant for the life of me find one of those damn boxes for sale. i found some in pounds but was to lazy to covert to see what it would run me.

Iv wondered about preamp pedals though as well thought. Iv heard that the EHX english muffin can give some preety authentic british sounds

I've also heard great things about the Tone Bone: Hot British.
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tube time i think they lined um both out to the same cabinet to be fair, i recall maybe a vox cab but i dont remember. I can find the video. but u cant watch it so i dont know what good it would do, oh well u could check it out sometime still
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ntepQvucDfY
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What amp are they running it into? I don't have youtube here at work, sorry.

It's a Fender Tweed Twin, which was decided is a bit stupid as it is already similar to a vintage marshall. To make it fairer they should have done it through a twin reverb. They are trying to sell the pedal though so they will want it to sound as good as the Plexi. IMO the pedal sounds better in the video.
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#12
personally i use a twin reverb and a pedalboard (described in my sig). I love the clean sound of the amp and the reverb is the best i have ever heard. but i also use the amp for metal tones as well with my rat/ts9 combo and to me it sounds just like a marshall with both those pedals engaged
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What amp are they running it into? I don't have youtube here at work, sorry.


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Ya know i watched that recently and they did sound incredibly close, but i cant for the life of me find one of those damn boxes for sale. i found some in pounds but was to lazy to covert to see what it would run me.

Iv wondered about preamp pedals though as well thought. Iv heard that the EHX english muffin can give some preety authentic british sounds


They actually make them up the road from me so i'm wanting to pop in there one day and make me a custom Hellbender to my specs

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#14
Chrisiphone if you get one made to your specs we demand reviews and sound clips!!!
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Chrisiphone if you get one made to your specs we demand reviews and sound clips!!!


Need money first

I want it to replicate slash's tonez and i'll happily throw £200 at them for it.

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#16
Personally I run a multi-amp setup. '74 Bassman 50 for my cleans and an Ashdown Fallen Angel for my dirt. I've always preferred amp distortion over pedal distortion.
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What is this thread about exactly?


Maybe I'll just watch instead.





I think the TS is trying to get an idea of whether people use a clean amp with dirt boxes (and if so which amp and which fx), just dirty amps, or a multi-amp setup - one for clean and one for dirt.
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311 i always manage to find you in this forum
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Quote by tubetime86
In the last thread a question came up that neither me nor the originator of the question could answer; can you, with the right pedals, get a top notch metal tone out of, for argument's sake, a Twin Reverb.


I don't see why not. Most metal "tones" are just brash preamp distortion compressed to the balls.
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#21
metalhead u r correct
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Quote by 311ZOSOVHJH
What is this thread about exactly?

The idea that there are two schools of thought:
1. Different sounds require different amps. The best clean amp is not the best dirty amp and vice versa.
2. A good tube power section can produce good tones clean or dirty, and preamps or pedals can provide you with all the variation you need.
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I don't see why not. Most metal "tones" are just brash preamp distortion compressed to the balls.


edit - most Modern Metal "tones"
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I don't see why not. Most metal "tones" are just brash preamp distortion compressed to the balls.

Ya that's what I thought, but I don't know from experience. I have, however heard some pretty great distorted tones from different pedals into Roland JC-120s and that's as clean as you can get without getting a PA power amp.
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#25
You're probably right.
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#26
I would prefer to have ONE amp for everything.

I don't like the idea of getting clean amps to run pedals through it.
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#27
Personally I just try to alter "my sound" for everything I do, no matter which genre.

I have a single channel amp, so i'd run it on a slightly more than mildly overdriven crunch, back off guitar volume for clean, and use an OD to push it further into overdrive for lead's etc.

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