#1
so pit i need some help learning how to drum to some polyrhythic songs.

anybody got any songs that are good to start learning to?
I like listening to bands like messugah, Karnivool and bands like that.
#3
completely rethink the way you count time, thats what i did. I took a mathematical approach, but there other ways, like aural/visual matching, and eventually it becomes second nature.
#4
yeah i tried drumming to meshuggah's song "rational gaze" i can drum to it for about 3 mins but i just lose count all the time.
#5
Quote by deathdrummer
yeah i tried drumming to meshuggah's song "rational gaze" i can drum to it for about 3 mins but i just lose count all the time.


Seriously try the song I mentioned.
It starts off with a 4/4 hand beat and the feet are of a different measure. The hand is playing the snare and the ride cymbal. Not too bad. Then the song shifts and the right hand is playing alternating crash cymbals.
That added slight difficulty really gets you thinking in terms of polyrhythms. It's a great song to start off with.
#6
Quote by Pagan_Poetry
Seriously try the song I mentioned.
It starts off with a 4/4 hand beat and the feet are of a different measure. The hand is playing the snare and the ride cymbal. Not too bad. Then the song shifts and the right hand is playing alternating crash cymbals.
That added slight difficulty really gets you thinking in terms of polyrhythms. It's a great song to start off with.



Ok thanks for the advice i ll try drumming to it.
#7
F*ck, I was wrong. First part is with a high hat, not a ride. Whoops. Sounds like a ride on the album.
Here it is in video form. Convenient aint it?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kI8w_r9mvBw
#9
I would stick to polyrhymic drumming in 4 initially. Playing in odd time sigs is a much greater challenge so one step at a time. Gavin Harrison did an excellent book on the subject

Try latin beats like songo with a 2 3 clave on the left foot. Mike Johnston had a great lesson on this.

The end of lateralus by Tool is very challenging and fun as well as Meshuggah but as said its challenging being in the time sigs they are. If you want to play Meshuggah style stuff some jazz background helps enormously as well as listening to jazzy music helped me greatly.
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#15
Quote by Sir-Shredalot
That example is polyrhythmic between the guitars and drums, this is different to the drummer playing polyrhymic stuff i.e. different limbs playing differently.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MdyRoo7Sdd8

Well he mentioned Meshuggah, and all the bands I mentioned are very similar and influenced by them...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4xaB6dZE9j0
This is also pretty neat.
#16
Quote by TheReverend724
Veil of Maya has a lot of fun polyrhythmic stuff to play, that is, if you like deathcore


I do


how long have you been playing?



yes i have, i started when i was about 10 yrs old i have been drumming on and off for years now i am 22 now.
#19
Quote by Sir-Shredalot
That example is polyrhythmic between the guitars and drums, this is different to the drummer playing polyrhymic stuff i.e. different limbs playing differently.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MdyRoo7Sdd8


Antonio is one of my favourite modern drummers.. for TS, i suggest you hear the stuff he's done with Pat Metheny, the drumming on some of those tunes is incredible, although the live DVDs he's done with him are the best places to start in terms of the drumming. His solos are incredible!




#20
When I polyrythmic stuff, I rarely count.

IMO, just get the grooves and changes so embedded in your system so you don't need to count.
#21
I recommend Tool.
Reflection - I think the whole song could be counted as a polyrhythm
Third Eye - The first verse has 1.
Rosetta Stoned has a couple during the solo.