#1
Well, since I played one of these yesterday for the first time, I figured I'd post my findings up here.

Guitars used:
Epiphone Casino (P-90s)
Gibson Korina Explorer (Humbuckers)
Fender Highway 1 Stratocaster (Single coils)

The cabinet was the matching Bogner 2x12.

Clean channel: This is clearly where the amp shines. With all three guitars, the cleans were fat and warm, like a warmer Fender. With the boost engaged, the cleans got quite sparkly, not quite into Vox territory, but still enough jangle for me. If I wanted pristine cleans, this is where I would go. The crunch switch didn't seem to do anything but add massive amounts of bass that sounded terrible.

Lead channel: With the Casino, I found this channel to be largely unimpressive. The gain was thin, and treble heavy. The Fender improved the situation greatly, easily achieving tones that reminded me of The Vines and similar bands at low to mid-gain tones, but at higher gain settings, the treble problem returned. With the Explorer, the low and mid gain tones were again quite nice, and at higher gain, early metal tones sprung from the amp in spades. There's not *quite* enough gain for modern metal, but you should be able to achieve those with a boost.

Overall, this is a very, very good amp, but I don't quite feel like it deserves a nearly $1300 price tag. 7.5/10 overall. Well worth a look if you can find one slightly cheaper.
#2
I agree with pretty much the whole post. While this has been discussed many times, I'm still gonna give it a thumbs up.
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#3
The alchemist come stock with a 12ax7b in the phase inverter.......change it out and it and it helps tighten the bottom end a little. I owned a Alky 112 and the cab after a month started to buzz and rattle. Overall i was pretty disappointed
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#4
I had one for a few months, was never really happy with it. I wanted a more a metal sounding amp, I like the bugera over it lol. The bogner was built like crap all the screws were loose on the amp. If you run a 10 band eq it will prob kick some ass, but for the cash its not worth it. Musicans friend, in the magazine its 1600! you can get a nicer amp for that!XTC is a nice sounding amp from what I hear on the net.
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#5
I personally am very fond of the Bogner Alchemist and didn't quite agree with it being treble heavy. But thank you for the review.
#6
Quote by AngryGoldfish
I personally am very fond of the Bogner Alchemist and didn't quite agree with it being treble heavy. But thank you for the review.


Well, to be fair, I didn't get to spend as much time with the amp as I would've liked. I did like it, though, I just think it could've been a tad better in some areas.

Certainly blows my Flextone away.
#7
Quote by Led Dirigible
Well, to be fair, I didn't get to spend as much time with the amp as I would've liked. I did like it, though, I just think it could've been a tad better in some areas.

Certainly blows my Flextone away.
No, no, I'm complaining at your opinion, it's cool to hear what you have to say. I'm just disagreeing.

I think it's relatively cheap for a Bogner amplifier.

The Flextone is a pretty sweet amp for the money.
#8
Quote by AngryGoldfish
No, no, I'm complaining at your opinion, it's cool to hear what you have to say. I'm just disagreeing.

I think it's relatively cheap for a Bogner amplifier.

The Flextone is a pretty sweet amp for the money.


Well, I was just saying that if I had more time to EQ it, I could probably get the highs more to my liking.

My Flextone's alright for clean tones, but the gain sounds leave a lot to be desired, IMO.
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#9
I'm still in a love/hate mode with this amp. Maybe one day I'll be swung one way or the other. If it wasn't so expensive I'd probably like it more. Did you mess with the clean channel using the built in delay? Heavenly! Overall I feel the same way you do. Good job.
#10
I kind of disagree with the whole review. Sorry man. I have the Alchemist 212 and its and awesome amp. Not a live amp in my opinion but an awesome studio amp. Ive never had any EQ problems with this amp at all. No excessive bass OR treble. The Gain on this amp was great as well. It can sound pretty heavy with the right guitar run thru it. I play a PRS custom 22 thru it and it sounds amazing. ..You may have just got a faulty amp.. : /
#11
one VERY bad thing ab this amp tho... is the FX loop ugh ugh ugh parallel ugh terrible
#12
i really think this is a hit or miss amp for people, some people either hate them or love them. That being said I still need to try one. I heard demo's on youtube and it did sound a little trebly.
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#13
I loved it when I played it . And the Alchemist 212 I tried only had a price tag of $720 .
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#14
I felt pretty meh after I had tested this amp on 5 separate occasions.

The cleans are very sweet and mellow-ish, whereas the Mercury channel is pretty good for the moderate gain crowd.

I must say thought that there was a LOT of marketing hype behind the amp. The marketing lingo makes it sound like an epic & drool-worthy amp, when in reality, it doesn't really live up to the hype. Although it doesn't mean its a bad amp, just that its marketing and advertising over hypes the amp.

Personally, I wasn't a great fan of the parallel effects loops (I honestly don't see a practical use for parallel effects loop myself), whereas the effects were rather meh. I think that on this amp... less is more, and Bogner could have left out the effects and charged less for the whole thing.
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#15
If they made a one channel version of these with just the clean channel and the effects, with a lower price tag, I'd definitely consider picking one of these up. The clean channel on these things is ****ing amazing, but the many times I've tried it, the gain channel has just left me wanting more
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#16
i woud gladly trade the onboard fx for an improved, serial loop.

also, cleans were the shizz, but the lead ch felt way too loose. i liked the tone, but the feel was all wrong. also, i've only tested stock floor models, never had the chance to swap out their phase inverter tube... which comes with a 12ax7b you say??? pretty high gain for that slot huh? oh well, i'm sure reinhold knows more about amps than me.
#17
Quote by Led Dirigible
Well, I was just saying that if I had more time to EQ it, I could probably get the highs more to my liking.

My Flextone's alright for clean tones, but the gain sounds leave a lot to be desired, IMO.
Have you tried putting a BBE Sonic Stomp in the mix? I can't remember whether they have an effects loop or not. The pedal works amazingly well in the loop of a Vetta.
#18
Quote by AngryGoldfish
Have you tried putting a BBE Sonic Stomp in the mix? I can't remember whether they have an effects loop or not. The pedal works amazingly well in the loop of a Vetta.


actually, that's a really great idea! give the bass a slight bump and either leve the "process" at unity or maybe just a pinch below would sound really great i imagine. they are gonna need to come down on the sticker price a little tho. i've seen the head as low as $1100... def paying for the name there.
#19
I have the 1x12 with V30 speaker and IMO it sounds better than the 2x12 and the head with seperate cab. I'm surprised that people find it treble heavy, mine is really dark sounding and I even use EMG81's with my LTD EC1000 (which could be seen as a really bright and sharp sounding pick-up).

It can do modern-metal pretty fine (especially when cranked) but it doesn't has enough gain for my taste. Maybe I should make a vid of it's high-gain capacities. You just have to tweak the EQ a bit for nice modern-metal tone: gain full with boost, treble 3 o'clock, mids 11 o'clock, bass full. Punch and Mid-shift on, bright switch off.
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#20
a better speaker choise might help, maybe those 2 dont go together. bogners just cashing in on his name on that amp, my marshall has 50 watts and will smoke that amp any time. the cleans are real good and has much more power coming from the transformers compared to the bogner.
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#22
Quote by GrisKy
i woud gladly trade the onboard fx for an improved, serial loop.

also, cleans were the shizz, but the lead ch felt way too loose. i liked the tone, but the feel was all wrong. also, i've only tested stock floor models, never had the chance to swap out their phase inverter tube... which comes with a 12ax7b you say??? pretty high gain for that slot huh? oh well, i'm sure reinhold knows more about amps than me.

The 12ax7b is a chinese mid gain tube.........I tried several different tubes and settled on a tung-sol. It help tighted it up a bit.
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