#1
I have a really good heavy setting that I love using a Boss ME50 Pedal however when it comes down to solos, they sound strange and weak.

I'm learning the solo to Waking The Demon and the notes sound really plain and boring, I'm not sure why, when I take away the pedal and play with just the amp on clean it sounds the same, so I thought it was my guitar, I changed to my other guitar and the same bland noise was being outputted.

So it must be me right? Nope, had a few of my friends play in different conditions and it sounds the same...

My main guitar is a Shecter Synyster Gates Custom (Seymour Dunan) and my old one is an Epiphone Xplorer.

So does anyone have any bright suggestions on what the beef is or does everyone's sound bland? Can upload sound to show you guys if necessary.
#3
Quote by KindredPOKER
I have a really good heavy setting that I love using a Boss ME50 Pedal however when it comes down to solos, they sound strange and weak.

I'm learning the solo to Waking The Demon and the notes sound really plain and boring, I'm not sure why, when I take away the pedal and play with just the amp on clean it sounds the same, so I thought it was my guitar, I changed to my other guitar and the same bland noise was being outputted.

So it must be me right? Nope, had a few of my friends play in different conditions and it sounds the same...

My main guitar is a Shecter Synyster Gates Custom (Seymour Dunan) and my old one is an Epiphone Xplorer.

So does anyone have any bright suggestions on what the beef is or does everyone's sound bland? Can upload sound to show you guys if necessary.


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#4
The pedal is shit. Case closed.
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#5
Sound clips would be much better, your descriptions are kinda vague.
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#6
Make sure your vibrato and such are good, a decent vibrato can brighten even the most terrible pedal.
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#7
I'm using a Marshall MG Series 30DFX, uploading a sound clip now, will link to it when its done.
#8
MG's are really hated around here. Be prepared for people to bash your amp to pieces and blame it for your sound problem. You should also be prepared for them to be right. Your amp is most likely the problem. I have a little MG I got ages ago as a practice amp and yeah, they tend to sound pretty bland. Sorry.
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#10
if your not adding any feeling to the solo it probably wont sound good. add some vibrato bends hammers and pull-offs which will hopelfully add more spice to it
#11
some reverb will help the sound, it also sounds like you need more vibrato, try to thicken the note up as much as possible.
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#12
hmm, by vibrato you mean me do vibrato more or add a vibrato effect? xD

Also any suggestions on type of reverb?
#13
Quote by KindredPOKER
Right here is a bad sound quality recording:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KLqZC89dunQ

I start off playing normal stuff and then stop and attempt the first bar or so of the solo, I actually laughed out load when I heard the start of the solo played back.



sounds like itd have to do with your settings and pick ups on the guitars. my jackson rr5 had a really weak sounding high end. it was rather annoying. trying raising your pickup on the high end side to be closer to the strings. that could help a bit. mess with your treble and mids a bit too. if that fails then upgrade the pick ups. im no pro so im sure someone could have better ideas than these.
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#14
Quote by Gundamnitpete
some reverb will help the sound, it also sounds like you need more vibrato, try to thicken the note up as much as possible.



reverb isnt going to do much with that sound. it's not going to brighten it up really. no matter what you throw into the signal.
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Quote by Crohny
reverb isnt going to do much with that sound. it's not going to brighten it up really. no matter what you throw into the signal.



my opinion is that it will help thicken the notes.

TS, you need to add vibrato into the bend, not just hold the tension.
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#16
Quote by Gundamnitpete
my opinion is that it will help thicken the notes.

TS, you need to add vibrato into the bend, not just hold the tension.



thats not going to make it chime out though. youll just make it sound flat but bolder really. not going to really help much man.
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#17
Thanks for all of the replies guys, but I still can't seem to figure this out, I'm off to bed now anyway its like 4am here, will have another shot tomorrow.
#18
Quote by Crohny
thats not going to make it chime out though. youll just make it sound flat but bolder really. not going to really help much man.



my opinion is that it will help thicken the notes.
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Bugera 6262 212 loaded with WGS veteran 30's
#19
Quote by Gundamnitpete
my opinion is that it will help thicken the notes.



i know. you have said this, but the fix he is looking for isn't to thicken the notes. if youd explain more of what you mean by thicken i might be on the same level with you, but when i think of thickening and what reverb does thats not what he is looking for. opinions are cool and all but im going by what i know and from what he is telling us.
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#20
Quote by Crohny
i know. you have said this, but the fix he is looking for isn't to thicken the notes. if youd explain more of what you mean by thicken i might be on the same level with you, but when i think of thickening and what reverb does thats not what he is looking for. opinions are cool and all but im going by what i know and from what he is telling us.



i listened to the clip, and it sounded to me very very harsh, so the reverb would be there is give it a more "big" sound.
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#21
Quote by KindredPOKER
I'm using a Marshall MG Series 30DFX, uploading a sound clip now, will link to it when its done.


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#22
Quote by Gundamnitpete
i listened to the clip, and it sounded to me very very harsh, so the reverb would be there is give it a more "big" sound.



the sound was really rough for sure. its also only a MG and a crappy audio sample on youtube. so that surely isnt going to help us. haha. reverb helps more if youre a sloppy player. just saying. plus doesnt the MG 30watt or whatever it is have built in reverb? or is that just the higher wat models and the head?
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#23
Quote by Crohny
the sound was really rough for sure. its also only a MG and a crappy audio sample on youtube. so that surely isnt going to help us. haha. reverb helps more if youre a sloppy player. just saying. plus doesnt the MG 30watt or whatever it is have built in reverb? or is that just the higher wat models and the head?



not sure on the marshall amps, i'm not a marshall guy myself per chance

I dunno, i like the sound of a little reverb, good to thicken the sound up IMHO, good for if your playing by your lonesome.
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LTD Alexi-200 Black(Death Adder pickup & Gold OFR)
Agile Interceptor Pro 727 7-string
Jackson JS30RR rhoads
Jackson DKMGT
Squire telecaster

amps:
Bugera 6262 212 loaded with WGS veteran 30's
Last edited by Gundamnitpete at Oct 30, 2009,
#24
1. you are playing out of an MG.

2. It sounds like you have your mids set to 0. Turn up the mids and the bass. Unless you already have them turned up, then refer to 1.

I'm not trying to be an asshole or anything, but it's probably your amp.
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