Poll: Do you ever think we'll create A.I.?
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Yeah, fo shure, definitly sometime in the future.
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I'm not sure, I don't really know.
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Somewhere between the next 5-10 years, definitly.
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No way.
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#1
Do you think we'll ever achieve making a program/software/robot that demonstrates artificial intelligence? That is, one that can behave and act on its own and perform all the both mental and physical tasks that humans perform?
Not that I've read up a great deal on this subject, but I for one don't. Just the sheer amount of programming needed to create such a robot and the vastness of it's behavior, the complexity of creating what is basically an artificial human, is mind-boggling.
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#2
No, I wouldn't think so.

I read something by Prof. Sharkey about it a couple days ago too.

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Maybe, I hope so.

*Goes to play system shock*

On a similar note, I know this question has been posed a million times but would said AI try to kill us?

Maybe they would study us or something? Think about it, If we found an ancient group of humans in the amazon that had been living without civilization for millions of years. We wouldn't exterminate them for being 'inferior' we'd study them to learn about ourselves.
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Considering I'm doing a course on AI, I'm guessing we're at least part of the way there >_>
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i'm thinking your aiming to high, search on the topic true ai, it doesn't mean we replacate humans, but make stuff that learns and thinks for itself, I think that is possible, i'm a student at uni and next year i'll be following extra logic classes and go for ai development,

it just intrests me a ****ing lot :p we'll see if it works or not, I sure hope it will



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Maybe, I hope so.

*Goes to play system shock*

On a similar note, I know this question has been posed a million times but would said AI try to kill us?

Maybe they would study us or something? Think about it, If we found an ancient group of humans in the amazon that had been living without civilization for millions of years. We wouldn't exterminate them for being 'inferior' we'd study them to learn about ourselves.


Ahhh! I'm playing System Shock 2 right now!

Yeah, AI rampancy would be scary as hell.
#10
AI already exists, it's just not exactly how you've described it.

The most ovbious existence is in games.

But mainly the famous robot Honda made, that's the leading figure in all of this, it can walk up steps etc - and that's leaps and bounds over any other kind of robot, it's spooky and thrilling to watch
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Look up these at Wikipedia, quite an interesting read if you're into this kinda stuff.
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#12
It's all about software so yeah. It is really possible if the AI has the ability to learn, which may be quite difficult but with some solid programming it is achievable..

You can program a chess game to learn, the AI will take some time to develop but you'll have a neat AI after some point
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AI already exists, it's just not exactly how you've described it.

The most ovbious existence is in games.

But mainly the famous robot Honda made, that's the leading figure in all of this, it can walk up steps etc - and that's leaps and bounds over any other kind of robot, it's spooky and thrilling to watch

Yeah but that needs programmed to do EVERYTHING it does, it doesnt make its own decisions theyre already made for it pre-demo. i watched a documentary about Asimo, although an amazing piece of kit it doesnt do what people think it does.
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Yeah but that needs programmed to do EVERYTHING it does, it doesnt make its own decisions theyre already made for it pre-demo. i watched a documentary about Asimo, although an amazing piece of kit it doesnt do what people think it does.



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A true AI needs to be capable of learning for itself without just following a load of preprogrammed if statements, and it needs to be able to remember these things and store them in such a way that it can make links between them to influence decision making. Asimo is damn cool but it is nowhere near as advanced as that.
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Yes, my brother studies AI at his university. So... Yeah.. I think they can
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#17
Why not? What do humans really do that a computer can't do? Every time something happens, all you do is perform a reaction, based off of what happened in prior situations. Thinking and such, would just be analyzing these prior situations for a current situation. Any AI would just need a way of storing these situations.
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Why not? What do humans really do that a computer can't do? Every time something happens, all you do is perform a reaction, based off of what happened in prior situations. Thinking and such, would just be analyzing these prior situations for a current situation. Any AI would just need a way of storing these situations.


This. The human brain works just like a computer itself. A very, very complex computer, but a computer nonetheless.
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#19
Creating some sort of AI in the future? Sure. Copying a human? No. Fact is, we don't know all about ourselves yet, amongst others we don't know what happens with the brainpower that we don't use. Until we know absolutely everything about ourselves, I don't think a 'human' robot can be created.

But a regular AI, sure. Just keep in mind that it's not going to be a copy of an actual human mind


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Creating some sort of AI in the future? Sure. Copying a human? No. Fact is, we don't know all about ourselves yet, amongst others we don't know what happens with the brainpower that we don't use. Until we know absolutely everything about ourselves, I don't think a 'human' robot can be created.

But a regular AI, sure. Just keep in mind that it's not going to be a copy of an actual human mind

Except we use nearly 100% of our brain. Anything less than that would just be a waste of energy, biologically speaking.
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Maybe, I hope so.

*Goes to play system shock*

On a similar note, I know this question has been posed a million times but would said AI try to kill us?

Maybe they would study us or something? Think about it, If we found an ancient group of humans in the amazon that had been living without civilization for millions of years. We wouldn't exterminate them for being 'inferior' we'd study them to learn about ourselves.



the theory behind them killing us is not relising they could beat us i think its down to the logic that we program the to protect us and they find that we are destroying ourselves so logically killing us protects us. The human brain DOES NOT work like a computer because computers dont feel things and they dont have gut feelings its all worked out
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Except we use nearly 100% of our brain. Anything less than that would just be a waste of energy, biologically speaking.


I personally feel that we do indeed use 100% of our brains. It's just that scientists and such have yet to come up with a way of measuring just what it is that's truly going on with it. As for true AI, I think that when the science behind nanobots progresses enough to have them make circuitry on the atomic scale, it can be possible. The present barrier of minuscule circuitry being the major downfall in creating the hardware necessary to run the software that would need to be developed to create true AI. So, in the future, yes, I believe it's possible to create an AI that mimics human thought and reasoning.
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The human brain DOES NOT work like a computer because computers dont feel things and they dont have gut feelings its all worked out


Feelings are based on chemicals and small electronic signals transmitted by our brain. Guess how a computer works. By small electronic signals
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the theory behind them killing us is not relising they could beat us i think its down to the logic that we program the to protect us and they find that we are destroying ourselves so logically killing us protects us. The human brain DOES NOT work like a computer because computers dont feel things and they dont have gut feelings its all worked out

Don't discount this until you understand exactly how the human brain works. Because once you do, you'll be the only person who does.
#27
my guess is we'll be close to it quite soon, but remember: we're not going to try to make humans, hell who'd want a robot which says: "meh i'll do it later I don't feel like it today" or who can dislike you (imagine what your computer would shout at you every time you **** up)

sure ai is going to improve its going to learn by interaction with humans, but it won't replicate them, cuz if you program it that way it would not be usefull at all :p



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#28
I think it's probable that eventually - and I do mean in a very, very long time - that technology will be sufficiently advanced so as to be indistinguishable from life.
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my guess is we'll be close to it quite soon, but remember: we're not going to try to make humans, hell who'd want a robot which says: "meh i'll do it later I don't feel like it today" or who can dislike you (imagine what your computer would shout at you every time you **** up)

Sure we will. We're humans, we do lots of things "because we can," making a human outside of biological means is just another "because we can" thing.
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my guess is we'll be close to it quite soon, but remember: we're not going to try to make humans, hell who'd want a robot which says: "meh i'll do it later I don't feel like it today" or who can dislike you (imagine what your computer would shout at you every time you **** up)

sure ai is going to improve its going to learn by interaction with humans, but it won't replicate them, cuz if you program it that way it would not be usefull at all :p

It would be useful, because in order to produce something like that, you'd have to understand a human's intelligence fully. Which would be pretty damn useful.
#31
We can't even make a decent translation programme yet. So if we can make AI it will be a long time in the future. We probably won't see it, barring some huge advance.
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#33
well we better get crackin on it cuz we only have like 2 years and a few months.
#34
st some point yes
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