#1
Specifically valve amps.

Can you layer overdrive pedals on top of them?
Like (hypothetically speaking) if I used a TS-9, ZW-44 and an OD-3, would they layer okay? Or would they just sound horrible?

I'm thinking of buying a load of overdrive and distortion pedals and then a few single channel valve amps, so I can have a variety of tones.

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Yes, you can, but it depends on what you are trying to do. Can you describe how you want to run all the amps together?

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Maybe with a little dialing in you could make layering OD's and distortions sound good. But another problem with that is buying a bunch of dirt pedals could get a little expensive.
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#5
I don't want to run like, a tiny terror, a little giant and a HT-5 all at once, again, hypothetically.

I just want to have a choice of different amps and pedals, dependent on gigs.

Just wondering if having a single channel amp and then layering amounts of OD/DS on top of it would work, for varying levels of gain.

Like, 0 on for clean, 1 on for dirty clean, 2 on for rhythm and 3 for lead tone, for example.

Just wondering if varying levels of transparency between pedals but muddy my tone somewhat?
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why not just get a 2 channel amp and a footswitch to change the channel from clean to overdrive then use an overdrive or distortion pedal to push it a bit more?
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why not just get a 2 channel amp and a footswitch to change the channel from clean to overdrive then use an overdrive or distortion pedal to push it a bit more?


To be different

But no, I haven't found an amp in my price range that I like the Distortion sound of.
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So you don't mean having them all on at once, just a bunch of different pedals for different things?

yes, it would work, but it would be expensive. Better to just get 1-2 pedals (maybe low gain overdrive and then a higher gain distortion) and just adjust those two.

I don't think it would ruin your tone to have that many pedals in your chain, but I don't really know, I only have two.
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To be different

But no, I haven't found an amp in my price range that I like the Distortion sound of.


have you thought about getting an EQ pedal n some new pickups? it might change the sound.
#10
I'm on about running OD boxes and stuff simultaneously.

At the minute, I've got a BOSS DS-1, DN-2 and then the ZW-44. I'm looking at getting the Blackstar HT-Distortion, coz it looks sexy. Haha.
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have you thought about getting an EQ pedal n some new pickups? it might change the sound.


I've got an EQ pedal, never thought of that.

And I'm running a JEM 555, I love the sound of the evos.
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#12
how about a multi effects unit thingy, like the line 6 floor pod or something
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I don't want to run like, a tiny terror, a little giant and a HT-5 all at once, again, hypothetically.

I just want to have a choice of different amps and pedals, dependent on gigs.

Just wondering if having a single channel amp and then layering amounts of OD/DS on top of it would work, for varying levels of gain.

Like, 0 on for clean, 1 on for dirty clean, 2 on for rhythm and 3 for lead tone, for example.

Just wondering if varying levels of transparency between pedals but muddy my tone somewhat?


It's perfectly fine to do this. It's called stacking.
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Stay away from PODs. They WILL ruin the sound of your amp.
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#15
If you run probably any more than 2 OD's at once, you will get massive amounts of feedback, and it will sound pretty bad. Roll your volume back for cleans and crunch, set the amp for a rhythm tone and use an OD/Boost to get a lead tone.
#16
I have a single channel amp, but I can have THREE different tones from it, without altering anything at the amp.

Normal: My settings on the amp, guitar volume up.
Clean: My settings on the amp, guitar volume rolled down.
Lead/Boost: My settings on amp, OD pedal on.

It's simple to get these "basic" tones without switching pedals for everything. Also I find buying amps/pedals to replicate other artists tones a little boring, manipulation your own tone to fit is much more personal and fun!

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#18
If you play a single channel valve amp you learn to use your guitar volume, your pickup selector and picking dynamics - three OD pedals is a pretty daft idea.
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#19
You can do that.

Just set one OD as your base for the tone and use the other OD to boost the gain. Running 2 would most likely be enough though. Layering 3 would make me think that you would get a lot of unwanted noise.
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#20
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Specifically valve amps.

Can you layer overdrive pedals on top of them?
Like (hypothetically speaking) if I used a TS-9, ZW-44 and an OD-3, would they layer okay? Or would they just sound horrible?

I'm thinking of buying a load of overdrive and distortion pedals and then a few single channel valve amps, so I can have a variety of tones.

Cheers.


A few single channel amps + a few pedals = big $$$$$$
I wouldn't recommend that, if they are combos then carrying them around is gonna be a pain, if its a head then you'll need cabs to go with each head which is still harder to transport unless you have a truck .

Running a lot of OD's at the same time through just one amp is gonna create noise alot. An EQ + OD or OD + OD or DIST + OD should be fine in front of a single amp.

Remember though, most single channel amps are capable of a wide variety of sounds, although they all cant be accessed at a press of a footswitch, but then again you wouldn't be shifting your style dramatically so many times during a song that you would need a whole different bunch of pedals to tap on, learning to use the volume & tone knob on your guitar itself is important when dealing with single channel amps. Also you could try having a different amp for clean sounds & A/B it with a single channel amp
Another thing, usually when i see pros using a single channel amp, they often have more than one guitar which they tend to change after a song to get a different tone. Its a little easier that way...
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I don't want to run like, a tiny terror, a little giant and a HT-5 all at once, again, hypothetically.

I just want to have a choice of different amps and pedals, dependent on gigs.

Just wondering if having a single channel amp and then layering amounts of OD/DS on top of it would work, for varying levels of gain.

Like, 0 on for clean, 1 on for dirty clean, 2 on for rhythm and 3 for lead tone, for example.

Just wondering if varying levels of transparency between pedals but muddy my tone somewhat?

Just turn the guitar's volume knob down for clean, a bit more up for some drive, more up for rythm and all the way up for the lead tone (just boost it if you don't have enough gain).
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#22
cascading gain structures is risky business, but some work particularly well together. yours do not. sorry. too many tone eaters and bad buffers in the mix.

a good ts9 clone followed by a germanium od have worked particularly well with less than outrageous settings... might also consider a quality clean boost or a transparent compressor. an eq is also not a bad idea at all.

you'll eventually regret this approach, however, wising you would have just saved for a nice two channel amp and one OD you really love (maybe two, but to be used independantly), and MAYBE a compressor and/or EQ if you decide you need it later.
#23
Mixing dirt pedals can be done and with great results. It takes a certain degree of tweaking, though, and searching for what fits your mix in the best possible way.
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