#1
Let's keep the idea of platonic love in mind here, k chaps?

"The vows we make and the things we do as a result of our wounds only make matters worse."


When you're cycling through a million and one emotions it can be a little hard to tell which ones are right, and which ones are simply the result of your wounded heart trying to harden. While all this is happening, the most important thing, at least in my mind, is to never forget it's not all about you. The effect of your self seeking or defensive/protective actions have long term implications on whoever they include. Not to say you should have no boundaries and throw your pearls to pigs, but the polar opposite isn't much better.

"The vows we make as children are very understandable—and very, very damaging. They shut our hearts down."


To raise walls and grow callus is not healthy, it's living to stay detached and safe. To love you must love fully and without conditions. Your love is to be without expectations, even if it is just to expect your love to be returned.

'I love you, only if you love me.' Excuse me, what? You could step in that love and not get your ankles wet. Nobody would ever admit it, but people do "love" as though that is the bottom line to them.

Take yourself out of the picture. To love, you are to serve.


Thought a few of you may get something out of my current thoughts. If not, the mods will clean it up.
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Just thoughts, discussion. No goal really.

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That is my contribution to the thought of platonic love.
It ends up being a real pain in the ass.


Platonic love is the sort of love you have for your friends, your family, ect.
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Just thoughts, discussion. No goal really.


Sadly, isnt that against the rules?
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Quote by touji-za-nai
Just thoughts, discussion. No goal really.


Platonic love is the sort of love you have for your friends, your family, ect.


I know. =P
But I was referring to when you love someone more than that and they only have platonic love towards you, which is quite often. >_<
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I know. =P
But I was referring to when you love someone more than that and they only have platonic love towards you, which is quite often. >_<

#10
Thank you OP for posting this, i have been so messed up by past "loves" that i really couldn't remember how to...

but this really puts things into perspective for me....thnx
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Sadly, isnt that against the rules?


what? you can't create a thread on a topic to discuss? that's silly.

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Thank you OP for posting this, i have been so messed up by past "loves" that i really couldn't remember how to...

but this really puts things into perspective for me....thnx


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Thank you OP for posting this, i have been so messed up by past "loves" that i really couldn't remember how to...

but this really puts things into perspective for me....thnx

+1

I'm stickying this just so I have a reminder every now and then. I'm honestly at a point where I think I'm incapable of loving anyone anymore

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#16
So what you're saying is, to heal your "wounded heart" you mustn't close yourself off, and that love must be given unconditionally?

you should watch The Wall by Pink Floyd.
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Love is love.
Why would you love anything you didn't want to put your dick inside of?


I love buffalo chicken sandwiches, and I'm fairly certain I don't wanna put my dick in that.
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Love hurts...
Love scars...
Love wounds...
And marks...
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#20
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I love buffalo chicken sandwiches, and I'm fairly certain I don't wanna put my dick in that.

#21
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So what you're saying is, to heal your "wounded heart" you mustn't close yourself off, and that love must be given unconditionally?

you should watch The Wall by Pink Floyd.



I never said it will heal your wounds. But acting out of fear or acting out of anger only worsens the situation. Fear will tell you nothing is any different, you are undeserving and worthless. Anger will tell you that you ARE a victim and that X is less than you.

No matter what happens/happened to you, you cannot harden your heart to loving people. Be it your fellow man/woman, or the person you hope to spend your life with.
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Love wounds...
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The whole reason I wrote that was because I fell for a girl and pursued her even when she put me through and emotional hell. My reliance on God and my patience in her grew me into a better, more round person. After months of waiting and patiently pursuing her, she gave in.

Sadly, a month later I found that she is emotionally unavailable. Because of her past life experiences and impressions left by a missing mother, she has walled herself off and freaked out when she felt she was 'too close' to me. Her fears became an insecurity that drove her to run from me. We are still close friends.

I feel as though what happened was unfair and unexpected, but I do not hate her.

I made the decision long ago that I would give my heart to her. Once your heart is gone, it's gone. And getting it back is hard, and hurts a lot.

If it isn't God's plan for us to be together and share life, then I'm ok with that. That doesn't mean it doesn't hurt. But I will always be here for her and love her.

I will never hate her, and I will never leave her. She is damaged goods, and I want to lead her. I want to heal her. Even if it's just as a friend, and nothing more, ever.
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For some reason, i'd rather read Deuteronomy.
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#25
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I never said it will heal your wounds. But acting out of fear or acting out of anger only worsens the situation. Fear will tell you nothing is any different, you are undeserving and worthless. Anger will tell you that you ARE a victim and that X is less than you.

No matter what happens/happened to you, you cannot harden your heart to loving people. Be it your fellow man/woman, or the person you hope to spend your life with.


Only worsens? Fear and anger are emotions - motivators - developed over thousands of years of evolution that definitely can lead to good or beneficial behaviour. Every single 'negative' emotion (since nobody argues that 'positive' emotions like happiness are bad) is of this nature. The problems that arise from emotions are not in their existence, they only ever arise in their expression and regulation.

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The whole reason I wrote that was because I fell for a girl and pursued her even when she put me through and emotional hell. My reliance on God and my patience in her grew me into a better, more round person. After months of waiting and patiently pursuing her, she gave in.

Sadly, a month later I found that she is emotionally unavailable. Because of her past life experiences and impressions left by a missing mother, she has walled herself off and freaked out when she felt she was 'too close' to me. Her fears became an insecurity that drove her to run from me. We are still close friends.

I feel as though what happened was unfair and unexpected, but I do not hate her.

I made the decision long ago that I would give my heart to her. Once your heart is gone, it's gone. And getting it back is hard, and hurts a lot.

If it isn't God's plan for us to be together and share life, then I'm ok with that. That doesn't mean it doesn't hurt. But I will always be here for her and love her.

I will never hate her, and I will never leave her. She is damaged goods, and I want to lead her. I want to heal her. Even if it's just as a friend, and nothing more, ever.


You are not following the best path. You aren't going to change/heal anyone or lead them to a better place. And you sound like you have some sort of white knight situation playing out in your head where she is 'healed'/whatever, realises how great you are, and decides to spend eternity with you. The reality is she will be lead where life takes her, and if life takes her to a better place, she'll probably ditch you for being a neurotic with mines upon mines of repressed emotional issues.

Even if your intentions are noble, you are wasting positive energy on her. What you're doing is like throwing cash down a drain. Unfortunately it is reality that many people are screwed up beyond your help, and will not benefit from your help. Now is the time to respond to that reality, rather than to what 'should' be reality according to a confused 17 year old's quasi-religious ramblings.
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#26
TS, you got friendzoned. bawwwwwwwwwwww
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#27
When you get in a situation with unrequited love, the best thing to do is either cut that person out, at least until you are over them, or control yourself, try and get over it without cutting them off, and make the best of a bad situation, try and become a kind of equal to them, and maybe see if they can hook you up with an attractive friend.

I have a friend who i went through a hard time with, but now we are very good friends, and by friends i don't mean she complains to me about her boy troubles and makes me pay for everything, i mean usually when we go out, she might drag me into a few shops, maybe make me hold a few things, but then she might pay for lunch or buy me a drink or something, and i'm sure it would work the other way round, so i like to think its pretty much equal in terms of what we do for eachother.
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#29
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So what you're saying is love is a commitment?

Are you a detective by chance?


How is love not a commitment?
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#30
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How is love not a commitment?


RinestoneCowboy said detective, not defective. He was mocking the obviousness of the fact that love is, indeed, a commitment.

You would do well to read posts more carefully.
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#31
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I love buffalo chicken sandwiches, and I'm fairly certain I don't wanna put my dick in that.
Fairly certain?
So you're not ruling out the possibility, eh?

I guess more important question is:
After you stick your dick in the buffalo chicken sandwiches, are ya gonna eat them?
Well, are you?
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#32
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Fairly certain?
So you're not ruling out the possibility, eh?

I guess more important question is:
After you stick your dick in the buffalo chicken sandwiches, are ya gonna eat them?
Well, are you?



must not make "how much do you love buffalo chicken sandwiches" thread

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