#1
I have saved up alot of money now, and im gonna buy a new amplifier. All of these amps are in my price range, but the Roadster is REALLLY on the limit.

Im looking for a organic, brutal tone, thats not totally scooped or compressed. I play in a progressive metal band. And im looking for a amp with decent cleans too.

Bands im inspired by are Meshuggah, Opeth, Tesseract and Textures.

I have a mesa rec cab, and i play alot live!

Thoughts?
#4
I say try them out. IMO ENGLs are more compressed than the Roadster, but it's preference.
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I tried the Dual rec, and Loved it, and i hated the Powerball, it sounded like crap in my ears.
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I tried the Dual rec, and Loved it, and i hated the Powerball, it sounded like crap in my ears.


Not exactly a fair comparison here. One of the most loved Mesas vs. the most hated ENGL. OP you really need to try them out. Both will fit your needs, but have a different character to them.
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#8
neither,

diamond nitrox.

some of the best cleans you'll find on a high gain amp, more gain on tap than a 6505, and less expensive than the ones you've mentioned (unless you live in europe... not sure what engls go for over there, but i know mesa and diamond are really overpriced).

sound is subjective, but i'd take it over the engl any day. if you haven't heard one, think: 5finger death punch... they might use a "phantom" instead of a "nitrox," can't remember, but the sound is similar anyhow. definately worth checking out!
#10
I'd go for the Savage personally. The only Mesa amp that I'd really second-guess that choice on is a Road King.

Plus, I'm guessing if the Roadster is pushing your budget a bit, then you're not in the US, as the Savage is significantly more than a new Roadster. Mesas really aren't that great of a deal outside of the US
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The roadster is badass.
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lol, i've only tried the roadking and savage se. But i agree with trying them first. Also, which country are you in? if you're in the US the roadster will be better value, if in europe the savage (assuming you like both equally, which you probably won't).
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#13
They're pretty different IMO. The Savage is more compressed but significantly tighter than the standard dual and bit tighter than the Roadster. They all have good cleans. The Roadster is the most organic sounding out of the bunch. All of them have plenty of mids so you're good there. If you're in Europe you might want to look into Diezel as well.
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I have saved up alot of money now, and im gonna buy a new amplifier. All of these amps are in my price range, but the Roadster is REALLLY on the limit.

Im looking for a organic, brutal tone, thats not totally scooped or compressed. I play in a progressive metal band. And im looking for a amp with decent cleans too.

Bands im inspired by are Meshuggah, Opeth, Tesseract and Textures.

I have a mesa rec cab, and i play alot live!

Thoughts?



Well, the voicing of the roadster is leaning towards the scooped size. Also, the Savage is nothing like any of the other ENGLS (save the Blackmore maybe). It's very open, relatively dynamic, dry but not too dry, just enough saturation with clarity to boot. It also gets brutal as ****ing hell too, not to mention MUCH easier to dial in than a rectifier.
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Well, the voicing of the roadster is leaning towards the scooped size. Also, the Savage is nothing like any of the other ENGLS (save the Blackmore maybe). It's very open, relatively dynamic, dry but not too dry, just enough saturation with clarity to boot. It also gets brutal as ****ing hell too, not to mention MUCH easier to dial in than a rectifier.


wtf are you talking about? it's not scooped unless you scoop it.
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I hope you're kidding. Do you think the recto series of of amps are naturally mid-heavy? Compared to marks, marshalls, splawn, etc...THOSE are mid heavy amps.

Diezel (herbert ch3 anyways), ENGL, Mesa Recto...those have scooped voicings.
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#17
savage, hands down
the recto series in general is poop (for the price) imo, unless you are referring to old duals (which i have heard good things about, never played)
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