#1
Hey guys,
I'm kind of a bit confused concerning high-end guitars and guitarists with signature guitars getting bolt-on guitars instead of neck-through.

I just don't understand the point of getting a bolt-on when you can ask for a neck through and same with really high-end custom guitars companies (Black machine for example) prefering bolt-on guitars over neck through....

Is there any big difference, or comfortability greatness? I know that neck through guitars are even supposed to have better sustain.
Can anyone help me there?


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#2
Preference mainly. No large reason aside from that.
Also, bolt ons are slightly easier to manufacture than set or neck throughs, and the best bolt on will have a fraction (Unnoticeable, but there) of sustain more than the best set neck or neck through.
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and if they break a neck they can just put another on instead of getting another guitar
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it gives a certain sound which alot of people like


Never heard about that..sounds kinda unoticable to me...
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people say theres a difference in sound. i dont hear it. i have 2 guitars both with mahagony bodies and 5 piece maple/walnut necks. one is neck thru and the other is bolt on. they both have emg pickups. there is almost no difference in sound, and what difference there is i can't connect to it being from the neck at all

i know some touring musicians prefer neck thru, in case they like drop their guitar and the headstock flies off, you can just replace the neck instead of getting a new guitar. thats not a huge reason though, do i dont really know
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#8
Neck-through is actually a fundamentally terrible construction design unless you're using specific species of wood and make it to the very, very highest standard. Even then it's only possible for it to equal a bolt-on in terms of sustain and response, plus it still has the downside of not being easy to repair. Set necks sit between the two.


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people say theres a difference in sound. i dont hear it. i have 2 guitars both with mahagony bodies and 5 piece maple/walnut necks. one is neck thru and the other is bolt on. they both have emg pickups. there is almost no difference in sound, and what difference there is i can't connect to it being from the neck at all
That's why the sound the same.
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That's why the sound the same.


yea i know emgs kinda all sound the same. my point is the neck design doesnt really change the tone at all
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OKay, thanks guys.
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yea i know emgs kinda all sound the same. my point is the neck design doesnt really change the tone at all

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yea i know emgs kinda all sound the same. my point is the neck design doesnt really change the tone at all
Congratulations, you manged to both understand the point and then completely fail to understand it in the same sentence.

Active pickups compress tone - a lot. So no, when you use active pickups, you're not going to notice so much difference between construction types or even wood specieis. That's why companies like ESP (and even Epiphone now) are happy to put active pickups in their low-end guitars, it'll still sound 99% the same as a high-end guitar that costs them more to produce, so they can convince more people the cheaper ones are worth buying and sell many more instruments.
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I like the feel of a neck through. It has a nicer response to me too.
#15
I find bolt-ons to be a bit brighter, snappier response and less sustaining (though no doubt this is more to do with the longer scale than the neck join).

Sustain ain't always good, and equalkly a lot of players simply prefer the sustain.


Also, cost comes into play. The Fender USA Standard Strat and Gibson Les Paul Standard are roughly the same quality level, but the Gibby is more than twice as expensive. Why? I'm guessing:

A) Glued-in neck joint takes longer and is more expensive
B) Nitrocellulose laqcuer is costly and a total bitch to apply
C) Gibson is ludicrously overpriced
#16
a big part of how the guitar sounds is the model, make, quality control,

the make up of the overall quality of that specific guitar.

a lot of low end guitars are made with bolt on necks.
that's a big part of why some guys feel that bolt on= less sustain, lower quality,
when compared to set, or thru-necks.
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#17
Quote by TarZz
Never heard about that..sounds kinda unoticable to me...

It sounded ridiculous to me at first, but most guitars that I've tried fit the described characteristics.

Bolt-ons sound punchier, set necks sound smoother. I haven't tried many neck-through's, but I imagine they'd be more like set necks.
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a lot of low end guitars are made with bolt on necks.
that's a big part of why some guys feel that bolt on= less sustain, lower quality,
when compared to set, or thru-necks.


yeah ive always felt that way. i simply havent had a reason to think any differently. but obviously there's reasons why MIA fenders are bolt on.

same with basswood bodies. ive only recently found out that its not necessarily bad.


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yeah ive always felt that way. i simply havent had a reason to think any differently. but obviously there's reasons why MIA fenders are bolt on.

same with basswood bodies. ive only recently found out that its not necessarily bad.

Bolt-on basswood guitars can have amazing tone and sustain, just listen to EVH, Petrucci, Satch, Vai, and Gilbert.
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^That's his point. Lot's of people are used to seeing basswood used on low end Epi's and whatnot, and so they assume that basswood is crap. He said that he's only just realised that basswood is in fact a great tonewood.
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Quote by rtfk101
people say theres a difference in sound. i dont hear it. i have 2 guitars both with mahagony bodies and 5 piece maple/walnut necks. one is neck thru and the other is bolt on. they both have emg pickups. there is almost no difference in sound, and what difference there is i can't connect to it being from the neck at all



thats because your playing EMGs, you dont hear the tonalities of the wood or the construction, you traded that for a battery and high output drive.