#1
Hey,

I'm considering buying a new amp, but i'm reluctant to buy a Tube as I can't find one I like in my price range (about £550) but I do however like some Randall RG amps, and am trying to get hold of a Flextone. Anyway, I was wondering whether guitar modifications, such as new pups, pots etc will have enough effect to make them worth it. I was also wondering whether pedals really do that much on a SS, I dunno why but in my mind I can't imagine an EQ pedal actually working on an SS, lol. I'm sure it does but, is the effect as profound?

Any and all help welcomed.
#2
doesn't really depends on whether the amp is SS or tube, it depends more on the quality of the amp
I have heard great awesome SS amps with pedals that sounded amazing (roland jc-120 sounds great with pedals) and a bad tube amp won't sound good either...
what amp do you have ? a SS amp with a pedal can sound good, a modeling amp with a pedal might not sound as good though
#3
I don't have either at the moment, but i'm really looking forward to doing some work on my guitar, but I don't want it to go to waste on an unresponsive amp. So, would they be more profound on the Randall (plain SS), than the Flextone (Modelling)?
#4
How can you not find a decent tube amp for £550?


What exactly do you play, because i'm 99% positive that you could find a tube amp that will suite you well in that price range.
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#5
Well, I play a pretty decent mix. Every kind of Rock/Metal pretty much, though I tend to play the softer sides with a tad extra gain. I like a really nice crunch, along with a nice High gain lead tone. Thing is, my stores don't stock alot for me to try out. I thought about a Bugera 6262 w/ a Framus 212, which is great on paper but I can't try it first. Anyway, bands I like, and try to replicate:

-Enter Shikari
-Biffy Clyro
-Paramore
-AC/DC (Own an SG, has to be done)
-All Time Low
-Bring Me The Horizon
-Tool
-Porcupine Tree
-Fall Of Troy
-Funeral For a Friend

I think that'll do you.
#7
i would, but i'm not very knowledgeable about either the prices in UK (i'm in canada) or these genres you said, my guess would be that a used JCM800 could do you greatly, but that's if it fits your budget.. knowing 550 pounds is almost 1k dollars, mmh... a vox ac15 could be cool too, but wouldn't be so heavy by itself, so you'd need a pedal for dirt. People tend to recommend peavey 5150 too, isn't the 6262 a clone of it ? don't quote me on that though
#8
Quote by Darkflame
i would, but i'm not very knowledgeable about either the prices in UK (i'm in canada) or these genres you said, my guess would be that a used JCM800 could do you greatly, but that's if it fits your budget.. knowing 550 pounds is almost 1k dollars, mmh... a vox ac15 could be cool too, but wouldn't be so heavy by itself, so you'd need a pedal for dirt. People tend to recommend peavey 5150 too, isn't the 6262 a clone of it ? don't quote me on that though

You're right on all counts. I know a couple of the bands I listed use a JCM, but then, i'll need a cab, and it's out of my price range pretty much anyway. Do they do JCM combo's? I've never heard of one.

WILLEDIT: Also, I tried a Vox AC30 a week ago. Where the hell is the gain on that thing? I sure as hell couldn't get alot out of it.
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#9
There's some JCM combos but they're still pretty expensive, I'm not sure if you would be able to find one for the same/less as the head. 5150 combos go for a good price over here, not sure about the UK though.
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#10
yeah, apparently there has been some jcm combos IIRC, don't know if they're still made though..
maybe an orange amp too? i head they're pretty similar to marshall, but once again, don't quote me on that, i'm more of a clean amp guy :-p

edit: i just saw your edit, so i'll reply with an edit, how loud was that ac30 when you tried the gain? that might be the problem :p
Last edited by Darkflame at Nov 5, 2009,
#11
Quote by Darkflame
yeah, apparently there has been some jcm combos IIRC, don't know if they're still made though..
maybe an orange amp too? i head they're pretty similar to marshall, but once again, don't quote me on that, i'm more of a clean amp guy :-p

edit: i just saw your edit, so i'll reply with an edit, how loud was that ac30 when you tried the gain? that might be the problem :p

Not loud, like 1 or 2. Store wouldn't let me turn up, i was wondering whether that could be it.
#12
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Not loud, like 1 or 2. Store wouldn't let me turn up, i was wondering whether that could be it.

That's it. If you want gain you gotta turn it up a bit... By the time you got to 5 you'd be dripping with gain, and getting kicked out of the store, though.
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#13
you can get a marshall TSL60 for that price i think used ofcourse
but then for BMTH tones you might want to boost it then again thats only liek another £70

also you could get a used peavey 5150 for about £500
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#14
So, is the TSL just like a badass version of the Bugera 6260. Like, 3 channels, Clean, Crunch and Lead, but a shared EQ?
#15
The 6260 is a copy of the peabey 5150/6505. However the bugera 1960 or 1990 head are marshal clones I believe.
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#16
Ah okay. So would it be worth checking those out? Like, are they any good? Because i'm assuming they're a damn sight cheaper and I was considering a Bugera before.