Poll: Which is more advantageous in life?
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Intelligence
101 67%
Beauty/physical attractiveness
50 33%
Voters: 151.
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#1
Which is more advantageous in life to have on its own, great intelligence or great beauty/physical attractiveness?
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#2
Intelligence, but there is a limit.

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#4
If you're a zombie, then you want brains.

OT, I have neither, and my life is boring. So one of them, probably.
#5
Each one has its advantages which will take you in different directions.

Luck may help along the way.
I don't know if a scientist/engineer/business(wo)man/lawyer earns more than a model/popstar/actress/multi-talentless tv personality.

EDIT: Actually, good looks will fade. Intelligence will fade much later.
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I doubt looks mattered when we where cave people..
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#7
You need a bit of both really.
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#9
You want a healthy balance really, having one without the other is going to make life hard for you. But looks fade, intelligence doesn't.
The advantages of being attractive are underestimated by most people though.
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I doubt looks mattered when we where cave people..


I disagree. a lot of animals choose mates based on looks for one, Practically the main reason is wanting a healthy mate because they will be more likely to produce strong young.

Often animals are thought to mate when they are the opposite sex, in heat etc. but it's not allways true. you do get cases when trying to breed animals and things where the couple genuinely have no interest in each other, even though all the obvious physical aspects are present.


HOWEVER, I voted intelligence. The human condition is to be the most intelligent, creative animal. without our thought, we wouldn't last long. we only have one baby per year, and it spends 1/3 of it's life helpless. we have no natural instincts; the only one we're born with is how to breastfeed. we're also weaker and slower than just about every other animal our size - even an ordinary chimp is about twice as strong as a human being.
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#11
Intelligence is better idealistically BUT in today's society good looks can probably get you much further for most things. It probably shouldn't be that way, but it is.
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#12
Being really fucking hot means you have the option of doing cock all and marrying a rich person.

Being really fucking clever means hard work.
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#13
Intelligence, but it has to be coupled with an attractive personality, or you could be the smartest person in the world and not get anywhere.
#14
looks+guitar get chicks. brains help, regardless. win-win, eithers good.

but i think intelligence is much more important, though there are days where i wish things were simpler for those of us with above average intelligence, rather than overthinking things... being attractive would be an easier life, tobesure.
#16
Hawksley says be clever, not beautiful.

But let's face it, being attractive is usually more important. Now if you're attractive and a dick it won't really help you much. But if you're attractive and nice, and not a moron (not even really intelligent - just not a moron) people will automatically start a conversation by liking you, and that can get you pretty damn far.

We're assuming day-to-day stuff here, right? Like which one gets you a better table at a restaurant, a better price on a car, etc?

The reason why intelligence isn't as much as a factor is because it requires other things to work well. I'm a smart guy, but I'm not a genius by any means. I think my IQ is about 140. Doesn't help me get any deals, because I'm not very good at bargaining with people. Didn't help me get my job as a photo professor - I lost out on a couple jobs to people I knew were less intelligent because they were more experienced or had a better degree, even if they did come into my store and ask me photography questions all the time.

I got the job because they asked someone else (who had just retired and wanted to stay that way), and he basically told them they would be goofy not to hire me. They actually called me - I didn't even know the job was open yet. I knew some of the other applicants; one is way smarter than be (both in regards to photography and in general), and one of them is ridiculously good-looking. But like so often in life it came down to who I knew. And I think luck is the primary factor there, although attractiveness and social abilities influences that much more than intelligence and subject mastery.
#19
Brains.

Being intelligent helps you contribute to society, you are more likely to be remembered after you die if you use your wit and brain to do stuff.
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#20
Beauty. I don't want an ugly chick that can beat me at arguments.
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#21
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The advantages of being attractive are underestimated by most people though.


This. I know so many good-looking people who take for granted how much of a headstart their looks give them

That said, intelligence will generally serve a person better in the long run
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#22
Intelligence is more valuable, but it can also really mess you up.

Being pretty might make you self-centred and arrogant, but I don't think it's that dangerous.
#23
Also, on intelligence, academic smartness is less important IMO then social intelligence. Intelligence and good social skills together are incredibly powerful. But being smart yet unable to interract with people or understand social dynamics is bad.

And attractiveness gives you a huge edge, people often automatically think your smarter, nicer, etc. because of it.
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I doubt looks mattered when we where cave people..


It'd be great if you could explain your reasoning.
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Also, on intelligence, academic smartness is less important IMO then social intelligence. Intelligence and good social skills together are incredibly powerful. But being smart yet unable to interract with people or understand social dynamics is bad.

And attractiveness gives you a huge edge, people often automatically think your smarter, nicer, etc. because of it.


Yeah, and attractive people generally have better social skills because people have always socialised with them more than less attractive people.

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You need a bit of both really.

+1. Unless you're ungodly smart or beautiful, you need some of both if you want anything good to happen for you.
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#28
I find with men, it tends to be intelligence/manipulative power (as in, some really stupid guys get into powerful positions, but they are very good at manipulation). Successful men are pretty well mixed between half-decent and toadlike.

With women, it tends to be looks/propensity to giggle at guys. A girl who flashes a smile and giggles (not hysterically, but you know what I mean) at what men say and is willing to show a bit of leg usually gets far more than her intelligence is due. Successful women are almost always attractive (looks do fade with age, but older women were usually still quite attractive when they made their break and were then left with a reputation to build on afterwards), or if they aren't, are good flirters in a way that hides any percieved physical downfalls.

Moral of the story is that most powerful men are egotistical and like being paid attention to by women.


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I doubt looks mattered when we- where cave people..?

I think he got distracted mid-sentence.
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#30
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Intelligence is more valuable, but it can also really mess you up.

Being pretty might make you self-centred and arrogant, but I don't think it's that dangerous.

Intelligence can also make you self-centred and arrogant, to the extent that you consider yourself so far superior to the people around you that you cease to interact with them.

And that's bad.

Attractiveness has other positive effects, including confidence, which leads you to being more social, which leads to willingness to take risks and arise to opportunities.
#31
intelligence makes you more useful and gets you further in life.

case in point: steven hawking, bill gates, quite a few scientists/CEO's etc really. (no offense to any of these people)
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intelligence makes you more useful and gets you further in life.

case in point: steven hawking, bill gates, quite a few scientists/CEO's etc really. (no offense to any of these people)

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In all seriousness though, I'd dearly like intelligence to be the defining factor of success but I look at the world and get very worried. Men's success I do think comes from their intelligence/skills. Women... you have to be intelligent to get certain jobs but the more attractive women always seem to make it.
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#33
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Lol...?


that's true! I read it in "the naked ape".
#35
I think the biggest is to be able to gain the trust of people. If you have people's trust, you can get very far in life.
#36
Beauty is more advantageous, but brains actually get you somewhere. A beautiful scientist will have an advantage over a hideous one of comparable intelligence.
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Intelligence can also make you self-centred and arrogant, to the extent that you consider yourself so far superior to the people around you that you cease to interact with them.


What you described is a mental illness, not intelligence

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that's true! I read it in "the naked ape".


I don't know what that book is, but I can think of a fair few instincts we're born with
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What you described is a mental illness, not intelligence


I don't know what that book is, but I can think of a fair few instincts we're born with


You could agrue things like fear of snakes etc. But as far as basic skills needed for survival, like, how to catch food, how to mate, how to swim, these are all things a variety of other mammals are born with, but we have to learn.
#39
Intelligence, but I think being attractive can help too. If you know you look good you're more likely to be confident.
#40
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You're dang weird bro.

On topic, intelligence in the long run, although beauty is probably more important short-term because it automatically heightens your esteem in the eyes of others.
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