#1
Yo everyone,

Right I'm looking to buy a new guitar on the take it away scheme and i've got my eyes on the Gibson SG Special. I know its a rock guitar, but can it handle heavy rock/metal? I mean Limp Bizkit, Tool, Soil etc.

On a second note, i've been looking at the PRS CE 22 at £1399. I know its a massive price difference, but is the difference between the guitars warrant the difference in price??

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#3
yes the prs would be better most likely
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#4
of coarse it can handle metal and rock. it would be plain stupid to say something else
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Though the PRS is a great guitar, probably better in terms of quality than the Gibson, I feel like the Gibson would pull off the heavier sounds better. Of course the PRS can do it, but I think the Gibson gives a much crunchier sound than the PRS.
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#7
Are you a lead of rhythm player? do you drop tune?

I always thinks of PRS's as "middle of the neck guitars" that is they play best and sound nicest between 5th and 7th fret

I think of SG's as "high neck guitars" they play and sound best around 14th fret.

So if you're a lead guy go for the SG and avoid the PRS stupid neck heel, If you're a rhtyhm player go for the PRS cos it's a damn nice rhythm guitar. In terms of handling rock/metal i think they'll hold up equally well, but possibly the SG has an edge in that respect?

NB i'm not saying that either can't do either, they can both do lead/rhythm well i just think of them in different ways, partly cos of the stupid PRS neck heel and odd weighting of the SG which makes the head drop.
#8
Both are very overpriced. I wouldn't recommend either one of them.

If you want SG, take a look at Tokai SG copies. A Made-in-Japan Tokai SG85 or SG95 will beat the Gibson SG Special senseless anytime. They are about the same price as Gibson, too.
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Are you a lead of rhythm player? do you drop tune?

I always thinks of PRS's as "middle of the neck guitars" that is they play best and sound nicest between 5th and 7th fret

I think of SG's as "high neck guitars" they play and sound best around 14th fret.


So if you're a lead guy go for the SG and avoid the PRS stupid neck heel, If you're a rhtyhm player go for the PRS cos it's a damn nice rhythm guitar. In terms of handling rock/metal i think they'll hold up equally well, but possibly the SG has an edge in that respect?

NB i'm not saying that either can't do either, they can both do lead/rhythm well i just think of them in different ways, partly cos of the stupid PRS neck heel and odd weighting of the SG which makes the head drop.

What?

If anything, the PRS is better for leads - what with the trem and all.
I don't see your point - the PRS neck heel isn't even that obstructing.
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Angus young plays an SG, ACDC is hard rock.... put them both together....
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If you will spend 1399 on a the PRS SE I suggest a SG Standard which from my research goes for about 999. I am usually a PRS person but the SG is a great guitar for hard rock.
#15
gibson has a few different tiers of guitars..

special doesnt mean its better, it means they ride the billy bus.

the gibson your looking at is lower quality(gibson IMO is lower quality than PRS) than the PRS.

i say get the PRS, its a great guitar, only thing is, it sounds like no other guitar, it sounds like a PRS, you may or may not like how it sounds.
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any guitar can play any type of music, its your amp. Your amp has the gain.

You could tune a tele low and play through a mesa recitifier and sound heavey...

Edit: Another example: You can take an acoustic-electric and play through a mesa and sound like any metal band you want to..
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#18
the SG can definitely handle hard rock. i think it's practically made for hard rock. they've definitely proven themselves there. however, while the SG would keep you happy for quite a while, i think a quality PRS is something you'll be giving to your grandkids. meaning, something you never get rid of.

i'd go with the PRS just for the longer scale, myself. 25" scale compared to the SG's 24.75" scale. you can definitely feel the difference. i love 25" scales. doesn't get muddy tuning down a half or a whole step, and it still feels smooth as hell to fret on.

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Edit: Another example: You can take an acoustic-electric and play through a mesa and sound like any metal band you want to..


i don't know about that. acoustic-electrics have really really really bad hum and squeal with even slight distortion. i know, i thought this would be a fun experiment. my ears almost still hurt 4 or 5 years later.
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Both are very overpriced. I wouldn't recommend either one of them.

If you want SG, take a look at Tokai SG copies. A Made-in-Japan Tokai SG85 or SG95 will beat the Gibson SG Special senseless anytime. They are about the same price as Gibson, too.


word, especially in europe.

Agreed about tokai, or any other japanese copy which you can find (the tokai will be easiest to find, most likely, and you'll actually be able to try it out; plus with the current exchange rate you don't really want to be importing from japan, anyway).

With PRS, you have several other options which are likely to be better value in the UK, too- Patrick Eggle (the older ones from the 90s are more sought-after, which means going second-hand), JJ, etc. etc.

obviously if you try the gibbo or the PRS and fall in love, by all means go for them, but if you can find any of those others i mentioned, you owe it to yourself to try them.

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Your amp has the gain.

You could tune a tele low and play through a mesa recitifier and sound heavey...

true, but the pickups affect the gain and tone a lot too. Something with EMGs or high output passive humbuckers would sound heavier than the tele.
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any guitar can play any type of music, its your amp. Your amp has the gain.

You could tune a tele low and play through a mesa recitifier and sound heavey...

Edit: Another example: You can take an acoustic-electric and play through a mesa and sound like any metal band you want to..



It's true. I play hardcore with a drop D tuning on my tele. (Four Year Strong sort of stuff) A guitar is a good start but if you play with a lot of overdrive then it's more so about the amp. That SG can handle it.
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i wouldn't say it's more about the amp. if you're playing brootz you don't really want to be playing on a hollowbody, for example.
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i don't know about that. acoustic-electrics have really really really bad hum and squeal with even slight distortion. i know, i thought this would be a fun experiment. my ears almost still hurt 4 or 5 years later.



you need to run it into a DI box then into an ampthen it shoudl work

my friend does this live im alwways surpised when i see an acoustic with thattone

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Yeh the SICK! bit sounds a bit stupid.