Poll: When were we better off?
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1960's
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2000's
109 62%
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#1
Are we better off in the year 2009 with all the warnings of toxic shit, asbestos and ROHS compliance shit, or were we better off in the 60's and 70's when there wasn't a hazard rating on Mcdonals children toys?
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#2
You're asking this on the World Wide Web.

The answer is clear.
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#4
Better off back then. Everyone's in a panic now. Now everyone's gonna die of stress-related heart attacks.
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#6
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You're asking this on the World Wide Web.

The answer is clear.


Yes, however Cell phones are shit. It really pisses me off when were practising and somebodys phone rings and the song stops and we wait for em to answer and shit. It's distracting the here we are now talking face to face thing.
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#7
Fact: there was more toxic shit in McDonalds toys back then than there is now. All the hazard regulations helped to improve that.

Go bathe in lead paint if you love it so much.
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Yes, however Cell phones are shit. It really pisses me off when were practising and somebodys phone rings and the song stops and we wait for em to answer and shit. It's distracting the here we are now talking face to face thing.

Turn your phone off?

EDIT: Holy shit, the word shit wasn't censored. What the shit is going on?
Last edited by sashki at Nov 7, 2009,
#9
Quote by sashki
Fact: there was more toxic shit in McDonalds toys back then than there is now. All the hazard regulations helped to improve that.

Go bathe in lead paint if you love it so much.



(Choking Hazards are imprinted on them now)
COMMON SENSE apperently is all gone now.
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#11
We were better off back in the middle ages. Someone insulted you? You smote'est him heartily. You felt oppressed by the feudal system? You became an outlaw, and laughed at all the feeble attempts to bring you to justice. You had no science, but you had spiky maces and crop rotation.

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#12
people weren't dumb enough back then to get angry that they couldn't tell that their steaming coffee was hot...
#13
Quote by .Jamison
(Choking Hazards are imprinted on them now)
COMMON SENSE apperently is all gone now.

Uh, no. Those warnings have been there for quite a long time, meaning the same lack of "common sense" extends back at least that far. The choking hazards are there to warn parents who otherwise would not look at/touch the toys themselves that their kids can fucking die from those toys (because it happened).

Faulty logic is faulty.

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people weren't dumb enough back then to get angry that they couldn't tell that their steaming coffee was hot...

That was 15 years ago.
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#14
Quote by .Jamison
(Choking Hazards are imprinted on them now)
COMMON SENSE apperently is all gone now.

Theres always one idiot out there that chokes on it and sues the company and wins. A lot of those warnings are so they don't get sued
#15
Quote by .Jamison
Are we better off in the year 2009 with all the warnings of toxic shit, asbestos and ROHS compliance shit, or were we better off in the 60's and 70's when there wasn't a hazard rating on Mcdonals children toys?

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#16
I'd say now. Safety hazards seem over the top but they're done with the best of intents, and unless you fully understand the mind of children you don't know what they might find danger in. People injure themselves in strange ways, so it's best to be precaucious. And it means Mcdonalds et al have to clear up their act, so that's gotta be good.
#17
I would agree that there is a shit ton less common sense today... but that is my opinion and I can't back it up with any evidence lol.
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#18
Quote by .Jamison
(Choking Hazards are imprinted on them now)
COMMON SENSE apperently is all gone now.

But that's the problem. What is common sense in a modern world?

We're cramming shit into the heads of middle-schoolers what they would've waited until high school to learn. Ten-year-olds now understand how to use technology better than probably half of all fifty-year-olds.

I don't think we've lost our common sense. I just think that we've become so entrenched in our modern world, with tight schedules and everything being ingrained into our heads, that we just can't stop for half a second to evaluate the consequences of what we're doing.

There are exceptions, obviously, like some just plain stupid people, but I think it sort of applies to most of our society these days.
#19
I think we were better off back then, the world wasn't so dangerous... I'd love to live in a time or a place where I can be out at night with my friends just chillin' on the street without fear of being robbed...

But then again we have porn and guitar pro and they didn't, back then so...
#20
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We were better off back in the middle ages. Someone insulted you? You smote'est him heartily. You felt oppressed by the feudal system? You became an outlaw, and laughed at all the feeble attempts to bring you to justice. You had no science, but you had spiky maces and crop rotation.

>_>

**** yeah crop rotation!
#21
I hope you realise that the safety hazards on toys were put there because kids actually did choke on them. It does not mean that kids are stupider now and more likely to choke on toys than they were in the 60's.

If anything, there should be fewer toy-chokings in this day and age. I wonder if there are statistics to support that.
#22
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I think we were better off back then, the world wasn't so dangerous... I'd love to live in a time or a place where I can be out at night with my friends just chillin' on the street without fear of being robbed...

But then again we have porn and guitar pro and they didn't, back then so...


(before tabs people just learned songs by ear though...and wrote out music, they didnt know any better so it was all fine)
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#23
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**** yeah crop rotation!




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#24
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I hope you realise that the safety hazards on toys were put there because kids actually did choke on them. It does not mean that kids are stupider now and more likely to choke on toys than they were in the 60's.

If anything, there should be fewer toy-chokings in this day and age. I wonder if there are statistics to support that.



kids that get those toy's can't read and their parents aren't gonna read that shit, most of its ignored.
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#25
We haven't lost common sense - companies have just worked out that if they put every conceivable warning label on a product, then no one can sue them in the case that something does get swallowed etc. Every decade, it gets easier to sue someone.

And there were big corporations controlling everything in the '60s too. Just because you've seen a video of Woodstock where a load of hippies trekked to the east coast to spend three days in the mud doesn't mean the whole world was like that.
#26
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(before tabs people just learned songs by ear though...and wrote out music, they didnt know any better so it was all fine)



well, before cars people used to walk, but driving is easier : /
#27
1960s. The way I see it, if all the stuff that's supposed to kill you was as dangerous as they say, there would be no such thing as old people now. Plus, smoking and drinking in the workplace Mad Men style would be ****ing awesome.
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#28
Quote by .Jamison
(Choking Hazards are imprinted on them now)
COMMON SENSE apperently is all gone now.


Warnings such as these are for liability purposes.

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We haven't lost common sense - companies have just worked out that if they put every conceivable warning label on a product, then no one can sue them in the case that something does get swallowed etc. Every decade, it gets easier to sue someone.


Exactly.
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#29
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1960s. The way I see it, if all the stuff that's supposed to kill you was as dangerous as they say, there would be no such thing as old people now. Plus, smoking and drinking in the workplace Mad Men style would be ****ing awesome.


And cancer and heart disease isn't a huge problem among older generations?
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#30
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And cancer and heart disease isn't a huge problem among older generations?


There was no AIDS though...
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#31
Quote by .Jamison
There was no AIDS though...


Aids has been an issue since the 1960's. 1969 was when Aids most likely arrived in America.
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#32
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Aids has been an issue since the 1960's. 1969 was when Aids most likely arrived in America.


not til the late 80's was it starting to become widespread though.
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#33
Quote by .Jamison
not til the late 80's was it starting to become widespread though.


No in the 1980's we realized men were coming down with cancers that were typical of older age men. We realized it was widespread in the 1980's, think of how the free love movement of the late 60's early 70's could have sheltered a rise in the predominance of AIDS.

Edit: Bottom line is, it was here in the 60's. Today we at least have prevention education to try and stop the spread from getting any worse.
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#34
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toxic shit?



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#35
Being born in 1950 would have been awesome for me 1968-1969 I'd be 18years old going to Zeppelin gigs, Beatles etc.... 60s, 70s, 80s, 90s = my fav decades.
#36
I didn't exist in the 60s, so clearly, 2009 is by far the best era to live in.
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#37
would have loved to been my age (or about 18) in the 60's or 70's best decades ever

EDIT: also when reading the title i thought you were asking if the pit was better off now but it seems to be getting more like a crazy hell everyday

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#38
Quote by sashki
Fact: there was more toxic shit in McDonalds toys back then than there is now. All the hazard regulations helped to improve that.

Go bathe in lead paint if you love it so much.

Turn your phone off?

EDIT: Holy shit, the word shit wasn't censored. What the shit is going on?

Oh shit.
OT: Better off now because they regulate it, when the FDA isn't sitting on their asses doing nothing, but I do think the panic state every mom in the country seems to have is annoying. I also think that panic is one of the leading causes of our "SUE! SUE! SUE!" society.
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