#1
Hey I am in the market for my second guitar, and I was hoping for some suggestions. I have already been looking at an American Standard Strat, either used or new, or a mexi strat and upgrading it, but I was hoping to get some other suggestions.

I play through a fender super champ xd and I mostly play blues, classic rock, and indie alt chillish i really dont know how to describe it softish rock.

- No floyd rose trem, only vintage style or fixed bridge
- My schecter c-1+ already has two humbuckers, so something a little more tonally versatile than that.
- Budget is around 1000 usd

and, is it worth it to just get the american std strat or to buy the mexi strat and upgrade?
2008 Fender American Standard Stratocaster
Schecter C-1+
Squier '51 (blonde with black pickguard)
Fender Super Champ XD
#3
try out an Ibanez prestige with an HSS or HSH config

EDIT: Sorry, didn't see the no trem.

um.... sorry, i dont know any that i would recommend with no HH or no trem...

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Last edited by SPBY at Nov 8, 2009,
#4
I couldn't find a prestige with a fixed bridge, all double locking tremolos.
2008 Fender American Standard Stratocaster
Schecter C-1+
Squier '51 (blonde with black pickguard)
Fender Super Champ XD
#5
How about either;

A: An American Telecaster

or

B: An Epiphone Casino

Both have a fixed bridge, neither are HH so more tonal variety, and both Imho Kick Ass





Gear

Tokai FA70 (My Korean ES-175)

Amplitube


Artisan 30 fund: £50/£1200
#6
Epi les paul, u can get really good ones for around 1000, or maybe u can find a cheaper gibson one somewhere, though there HH their pretty versatile, also i think u can get a washburn idol with coil splitting capability, not too sure on that tho
Last edited by deprofanity at Nov 8, 2009,
#7
hollowbody?
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#8
I am a little apprehensive about getting a hollow body because I am essentially buying a guitar to replace my schecter as my main guitar, and I dont see a hollow body being practical as my everything guitar
2008 Fender American Standard Stratocaster
Schecter C-1+
Squier '51 (blonde with black pickguard)
Fender Super Champ XD
#9
Quote by oldspice56
I am a little apprehensive about getting a hollow body because I am essentially buying a guitar to replace my schecter as my main guitar, and I dont see a hollow body being practical as my everything guitar


if you're looking to replace your schecter, how about an ibanez RGA prestige? fixed bridge, double humbuckers

GUITARS CURRENTLY USED
Ibanez RG7621
Ibanez RG121
ESP LTD H-400
#10
Quote by oldspice56
I am a little apprehensive about getting a hollow body because I am essentially buying a guitar to replace my schecter as my main guitar, and I dont see a hollow body being practical as my everything guitar


What is it about hollow-bodies you don't see as practical?

(Not to sound hostile, Im interested )





Gear

Tokai FA70 (My Korean ES-175)

Amplitube


Artisan 30 fund: £50/£1200
#11
to SPBY: Because I am going to keep the schecter, so I don't want to get a guitar that sounds similar to it.

To KeMiKal: fair enough, I would need to get a new case, I would rather be taking a solid body around and having that get all nicked and scratched instead of a beautiful hollow body and I am going to college next year, so I think a solid body will withstand any possible idiot moves by a roomate/travelng and such
2008 Fender American Standard Stratocaster
Schecter C-1+
Squier '51 (blonde with black pickguard)
Fender Super Champ XD
#13
Both of my main guitars are hollowbodies or semihollow. Semihollow is very practical as a main guitar because they are more resistant to feedback, have a great warm, open tone to them. Its hard to explain the complexity of a hollowbody without playing ALOT of them.

More importantly, for what you want, I would suggest a Telecaster. Whether you choose American or Mexican, play the hell out of it, even suggest a rental of it to take it home and play on your own gear. Fender guitars are hit or miss, most Americans are passable - good, Mexicans can go from abysmal - great.

Hell, I once accidently found an incredibly resonant Squier in a shop once, with some electronics upgrades would have sounded as good or better than the average American.
#14
You could get a Xaviere guitar (Guitar Fetish's brand) A Hallmark guitar (And hallmarks are really raved about) Or even a cheap guitar that talks to you that you can upgrade.

www.hallmarkguitars.com

http://store.guitarfetish.com/

I recommend Hallmark's guitars, I hear they are really fantastic right out of the box and they have models under $1,000. They all come with hardshell cases too. And the pickups are hot.
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Last edited by Gargoyle2500 at Nov 8, 2009,
#15
To KeMiKal: fair enough, I would need to get a new case, I would rather be taking a solid body around and having that get all nicked and scratched instead of a beautiful hollow body and I am going to college next year, so I think a solid body will withstand any possible idiot moves by a roomate/travelng and such


Since my Epiphone broke I have been using a full-hollowbody as my main guitar (For about a year now) As beautiful as it is, I know in a few years time it will look ten times better with wear. As for durability, I don't think there is much difference, my Tokai has taken a few knocks and has been taken around the school many a time and is still holding up strong so I don't think that is something you would need to worry about.

As for the case, might just be me but I would have a case for every guitar I have, instead of swapping and changing.

TLDR: Durability isn't an option, Get a deal on a case





Gear

Tokai FA70 (My Korean ES-175)

Amplitube


Artisan 30 fund: £50/£1200
#16
Alright you have convinced me, I will open up my scope to looking at some hollowbodies next time I go to that large national chain store that sells a lot of guitars cause there aren't any good guitar shops around where i live.
2008 Fender American Standard Stratocaster
Schecter C-1+
Squier '51 (blonde with black pickguard)
Fender Super Champ XD
#17
Good! I can assure you the warm tones and beautiful looks will serve you well forever





Gear

Tokai FA70 (My Korean ES-175)

Amplitube


Artisan 30 fund: £50/£1200
#18
Have you considered a HSS Stratocaster yet?
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#19
Yeah, but with my favorite players being Clapton, SRV, and more recently Mayer, I would get a SSS Strat if I were to get one
2008 Fender American Standard Stratocaster
Schecter C-1+
Squier '51 (blonde with black pickguard)
Fender Super Champ XD
#20
the strat is good
although dont look just at the american standard but look at the highway one as well
#21
Quote by oldspice56
Yeah, but with my favorite players being Clapton, SRV, and more recently Mayer, I would get a SSS Strat if I were to get one


How about this?

If you're willing to bid that is. Pretty good deal for a guitar that's usually $2500. You should get it, :].
#23
Quote by FallsDownStairs
How about this?

If you're willing to bid that is. Pretty good deal for a guitar that's usually $2500. You should get it, :].


that really looks amazing. wish i could but i dont like buying something I havent inspected and played yet, unless its off sweetwater
2008 Fender American Standard Stratocaster
Schecter C-1+
Squier '51 (blonde with black pickguard)
Fender Super Champ XD
#25
Washburn Wi66/x50 pro
Duncan Humbuckers, both fixed bridge, both effectively have coil tapping, grover tuners etc.
Cost less than an American standard.
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#26
Quote by oldspice56
that really looks amazing. wish i could but i dont like buying something I havent inspected and played yet, unless its off sweetwater


I can guarantee you'd most likely not be unsatisfied with an EJ strat. That's mainly if you like 12" radius fretboards and soft v profiles, or just a more Gibson style'd neck than the typical strat.

I love mine , I can give you any info on it, if needed.
#27
i played a soft v neck on the clapton sig yesterday at guitar center and i really liked the feel of it, it felt nice and comfortable, but the price was a little steep for me. What other guitars is the soft v available on?
2008 Fender American Standard Stratocaster
Schecter C-1+
Squier '51 (blonde with black pickguard)
Fender Super Champ XD
#28
Quote by oldspice56
i played a soft v neck on the clapton sig yesterday at guitar center and i really liked the feel of it, it felt nice and comfortable, but the price was a little steep for me. What other guitars is the soft v available on?


'57 reissue, Maybe the hot rod 57, Road Worn 50s, Classic Player 50s(I think that's the name.) Some Telecasters have it too. Most of them have the vintage radius (7.25"), the Hot Rod 57 has a 9.25" radius last I checked, the Eric Clapton signature has 9.25" radius too. Which makes it flatter, which people say is great for bending and such, and lower action.
#30
Quote by FallsDownStairs
'57 reissue, Maybe the hot rod 57, Road Worn 50s, Classic Player 50s(I think that's the name.) Some Telecasters have it too. Most of them have the vintage radius (7.25"), the Hot Rod 57 has a 9.25" radius last I checked, the Eric Clapton signature has 9.25" radius too. Which makes it flatter, which people say is great for bending and such, and lower action.

The classic 50s also has the V shaped neck with vintage radius. The Classic Player is one of the ones with the 9.25" radius, which I much prefer personally.

The Buddy Guy and the Jimmy Vaughan strats also has the soft V. There may be a couple more I've forgotten but I reckon we've got the majority.

EDIT: There's 2 versions of the Buddy Guy strat, the more expensive one would be out of your price range unless you went used.
Last edited by aaronni at Nov 8, 2009,
#32
There's a ton of variation with strats and EJ models in particular. I wanted one for a long time, but ended up building my own - I'm not just talking out my ass. I definitely wouldn't want to buy one sight-unseen.

You should check craigslist at least, or maybe some pawn shops. (Not that you'll find an EJ, but at least you'll get a discount and get to play the guitars, too.)
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#33
Quote by bullets34
There's a ton of variation with strats and EJ models in particular. I wanted one for a long time, but ended up building my own - I'm not just talking out my ass. I definitely wouldn't want to buy one sight-unseen.

You should check craigslist at least, or maybe some pawn shops. (Not that you'll find an EJ, but at least you'll get a discount and get to play the guitars, too.)


Really? Every EJ I played was pretty solid before I bought mine off of a guy located in Tennessee. They were all pretty consistent in weight and everything. If anything, it's one of the few Fenders that if you bought over the internet it's a higher chance of having a good one than others.

Though, I agree that craigslist and pawnshops would be better, since you do get to play them.
#34
how about a tele? they have 3 pickup models and you can mod the pickups to suite your tastes i suggest a single-coil sized humbucker for the bridge.


i think a 3 pickup tele would be great considering your first instinct is strat but then you think "oh wait maybe i want something a littlebit different"
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#35
For that budget you can get a Gibson VM Les Paul and still have money left over. To me I see no reason to get and Epi when you can easily fit a Gibson into that budget. But if it was my money I would be out looking at every guitar I could get my paws on in that price range and judge that way. Lets face it no matter what name brand you but it is a total crap shoot buying by mail order.
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#36
i second the tele suggestion! i do love mine

EDIT:
Quote by Emergancy Exit
i think a 3 pickup tele would be great considering your first instinct is strat but then you think "oh wait maybe i want something a littlebit different"


and this is what my tele is. a MIM Power Telecaster. it has 3 single coils (tele bridge, strat middle, tele neck) and a piezo pickup system as well. great diversity! and you can find them cheap used on ebay. possibly in stores too if you're lucky.
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