Poll: Have I bought a fake?
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View poll results: Have I bought a fake?
Yep, that's a lemon bud. Bad luck!
1 11%
Nah, that looks legit, sweet axe!
5 56%
Not sure mate
3 33%
Voters: 9.
#1
Hi guys,

I've recently come back from Japan, with one of those "OMG" purchases. A 2nd hand MIJ Candy Apple Strat.

I have a few questions though.

1) How can I tell if this guitar is totally legit?

Details:

Bought it from a reputable shop in Ochanomizu, Tokyo.
The serial number is a N011*** (N + 6 digit), so that looks correct [1993 -1994]. It's located on the back of the neck just above the bolts.
It's a "Made in Japan", not "Crafted in Japan".
It's got a maple neck, Gotoh tuners, skunk stripe and 21 frets.
3 Staggered Pole pickups.
4 Neck bolts.
3 ply pickguard.
1 string guide on the neck.
Vintage (I think) tremolo.
When I took the neck off it had a two stamps in the heal "ST-50" and "H11". I could not find a sig or date stamp.
The neck join is superb and I can't see signs of any bad craftsmanship.

I had to replace the neck pot and when I opened her up I saw that both tone pots shared a common capacitor (bleeding to the neck tonepot) [no idea if this is normal, is my first strat].

I'm at work at the moment so I'll upload pics when I get home if needed.

2) If it is legit, what model is it?

Many thanks in advance, pretty sure I don't have a lemon but it's always good to know for sure.

Peace.
#2
Are u gonna take it all the way back to japan if its not legit ...

Plus pics would help.
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#3
Pics to come in a few hours, after I leave the salt mines.

Won't take it back, but will send lots of angry thoughts patterns across the great blue sea. Also, may thrash the instrument around a little more than I would if it were legit

Cheers!
#4
If it isnt it would be a good base to mod the crap out of ...
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are you legit?
No, I'm a


COMMUNIST

Quote by Daneeka
It feels a little good inside to be fair, i feel like i rocked to hard that i killed my amp.


...




#5
Hells yeah, read a great "Pimp my Pacifica" article in Guitarist last year, might put a few of the ideas in there into practice. Unless it is what it says it is!
#7
GuitarDaterProject says:
Your guitar was made at the
Fuji-gen Plant (for Fender Japan), Japan
in the Year(s): 1994 - 1995

Looks legit enough to me. What makes you think it's fake anyway?
#8
Was bought overseas and I couldn't find a model that fit it's components anywhere on the web, so I thought I'd just check if it looked to be legit and if it was if somebody could let me know what in the hell it is
#9
It's probably an old reissue or "Special" model of some sort, alot of that kind of stuff is made over in Japan.
#10
Yeah those are my thoughts, really gagging to know which one though, mainly for that whole "I got a sweat INSERTMODELNAMEHERE, it's ****ing rad" over beer boasts that guitarists get to have after a new purchase
Last edited by mrfatbat at Nov 10, 2009,
#11
Quote by mrfatbat
Yeah those are my thoughts, really gagging to know which one though, mainly for that whole "I got a sweat INSERTMODELNAMEHERE, it's ****ing rad" over beer boasts that guitarists get to have after a new purchase

Email the serial to Fender, they should be able to tell you what model it is.
#12
There are some mij fenders which are made specifically for the japanese market. this could be one of those maybe?
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#13
I don't know really, but I'm guessing its an MIJ Standard Strat.

As I said, that's just from looking at it, but I don't know.
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#14
It looks like... some kind of strat. :p

Looks awesome, the japanese deffinately know how to build fenders. MIJ should be right, it wasnt till lately they started using CIJ, as far as I know theyve gone back to MIJ.

Theres nothing from those pics that would make me beleive it's anything other than an MIJ fender. Granted i'm not an expert on fakes,

A quick google tells me ST-50 was a production model of strats from japan.

http://translate.google.co.uk/translate?hl=en&sl=ja&u=http://www.shimokura-guitar.com/st50.html&ei=WGX5SvzVMITUjAe-iq26Cw&sa=X&oi=translate&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CAgQ7gEwAA&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dfender%2Bjapan%2Bst-50%26hl%3Den%26rlz%3D1T4GGLL_en-GBGB343GB344
#16
Just the dates from when they were produced. There probably is a differene in quality, but for the same reasons you'd expect an older fender to be better than a newer one.
#17
Thanks guys!!

That translated page seems to be the model. Really chuffed with the thing as it cost me about $400 AUD, and I've always wanted a Candy Apple Strat

I spent hours trawling through the web but just couldn't find a model that fit the components, now I believe the mystery is solved.

Just quickly, the two tone pots share a common capacitor, is this a common thing on strats?

Peace.
#18
Also, is there a kudos or points system for the UG threads? If so I'll give out some karma

MFB
#20
I think its standard for strats to share the capacitor for tone.



I know the MIM strat I dismantled in school and brought home deffinately did.

Even if it didn't, it was a used guitar and you can't completely throw the idea that the previous owner rewired it out of the window.

If you can operate a soldering iron then you could try having individual ones if it bothers you.