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#1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PBBe0LmCGD8&feature=related


Starts at :14 seconds.

I know I've heard it in another metalcore song like KsE or something. It's so ****ing overused. Its palm muted in that song, but ive heard it in another where it was open..

This kid at my school thinks he's the best guitarist because him and his drummer rock this shit during lunch. I literally heard "Hey lets play that song we made up!" and I start hearing that overused metalcore typical shit riff. I just wanna show him and say "Hey look at this song I heard the other day" and see what he says.
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#2
DUUDE, You know Blood Stain Child? They're a local band from here. Knew them when they first started out and I have regular conversations with the singer.

Don't like their music much, though. They used to be some badass death metal band, but now they've changed.

On topic, idk.
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#3
You're.. from Japan? Cool.

I'm always looking into tons of music, alot of metal. I came across them in 2007 I think. I liked it alot, but that was when I liked metalcore and I only knew a couple bands. Then I heard other bands that all sounded the same and it made me hate the genre. Now that I'm actually proficient at playing it makes me realize how easy it is to play it. It's stupid.

All those riffs are overused.


I think Blood Stain Child could be a good band if they loosened up a little and took a different approach. It's almost like they're copying music and covering it with some synth added...
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#4
ha i love it \m/

does sound a bit like rose of sharyn sped up, but not that similar. Should check out enter shikari if you like synth
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#5
not rose of sharyn either, i checked.. its different. I swear ive heard that exact same riff but played open and not palmed.
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#6
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DUUDE, You know Blood Stain Child? They're a local band from here. Knew them when they first started out and I have regular conversations with the singer.

Don't like their music much, though. They used to be some badass death metal band, but now they've changed.

On topic, idk.


I find them so horrifically awful that they make me shit blood.
#7
Sounds like some Dark Tranquility or Insomnium riff.
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#9
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they probably made a song just like it. if you can link me thatd be awesome

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Sounds like some Dark Tranquility or Insomnium riff.



yup, Dark Tranquility used it too - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GZqfH1LQEOQ


But im trying to find one from a really popular band like KsE or bring me the horizon or whatever. its really obvious and flamboyant riffage.
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#10
Sounds to me a lot like the end of first chorus in "End of Heartache" by Killswitch. But, its kinda hard for me to hear it in the video, and Killswitch play it quite a bit better than Blood Stain Child.

Anyway, the structure of that riff is like the entire basis of metalcore. As a metalcore listener, you're going to hear that a lot, with only minor differences, such as a few changed notes or palm muting in some form, so... This topic will probably receive an abundance of different answers suggesting different songs and bands, all of which will sound close, but won't be exactly right...

If all else fails, just tell your friend he's unoriginal... There's nothing he could possibly come back with to even begin to defend against such an accusation. Would count for more lulz though if you could take his guitar away and play something like Eruption, or something else generally impressive though...
#12
^thats what i was thinking. I dont write insane guitar solos, I write music (for my band) that takes advantage of all the instruments. not just extreme rif***e and double bass .__.

id rather show him up in battle of the bands when it comes 'round.
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#13
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yup, Dark Tranquility used it too

What do you mean "Dark Tranquility used it too"?
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#15
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What do you mean "Dark Tranquility used it too"?



well listen to the link i posted

they didnt use it exactly as obvious as others but they used that same general pattern and notes more or less
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#17
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I wouldn't bash someone for being unoriginal then play ****ing Eruption.


...or something else generally impressive...

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^thats what i was thinking. I dont write insane guitar solos, I write music (for my band) that takes advantage of all the instruments. not just extreme rif***e and double bass .__.

id rather show him up in battle of the bands when it comes 'round.


Well, that's great and I'm sure it makes a nice rounded overall sound... But, still... Insane guitar solos are definitely quite impressive, especially so when you can pull them off on the spot.
#20
oh no dont get me wrong, I love inane solos, but i love moderation too. Sometimes talent is knowing when NOT to play.. i dont like some of those yngwie malmsteen wannabes that ive seen at my school. a) they suck, and b) the only thing they play is malmsteen arpeggios and diminished intervals up and down the neck lol

i love writing or improvising a good solo if the situation calls for it.
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#22
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I thought that. Dark Tranquilitity used it? They practically invented it. One of metalcore's biggest influences is the Gothenburg scene.

Exactly.
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#24
Well, alot of melodic death metal and metalcore have riffs like that, so.
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#25
Blood Stain Child is awesome.

That's all I have to say, sir.
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#28
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Its from an As I Lay Dying song, im pretty sure.



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#29
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your.... your right!! i think its 94 hours!!!



THATS IT!!

Thank you sir.
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#30
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EDIT: Yeah the song sucks. That's why I got out of metalcore.
#31
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your.... your right!! i think its 94 hours!!!



Actually... no.. very close but no

I had already heard it before so i kinda knew it. i thought it was right but its different.
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#33
Note - Pedal - Pedal - Note - Note - Pedal - Note - Pedal - Note - Pedal - Pedal


It all sounds the same...

It's all based on pedals notes just like thrash is. Metal-core is basically Thrash mixed with Melodic Death Metal...
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#34
Quote by injected
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PBBe0LmCGD8&feature=related


Starts at :14 seconds.

I know I've heard it in another metalcore song like KsE or something. It's so ****ing overused. Its palm muted in that song, but ive heard it in another where it was open..

This kid at my school thinks he's the best guitarist because him and his drummer rock this shit during lunch. I literally heard "Hey lets play that song we made up!" and I start hearing that overused metalcore typical shit riff. I just wanna show him and say "Hey look at this song I heard the other day" and see what he says.



When I heard it I thought of Atreyu - Right Side of the Bed ...it might be a bit of a stretch, but yeah..in that song, around the 3:42 mark..
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#35
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. I just wanna show him and say "Hey look at this song I heard the other day" and see what he says.

I don't understand why you dont do this?
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#36
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Note - Pedal - Pedal - Note - Note - Pedal - Note - Pedal - Note - Pedal - Pedal


It all sounds the same...

It's all based on pedals notes just like thrash is. Metal-core is basically Thrash mixed with Melodic Death Metal...


exactly what i was gonna say its just using a pedal tone which literally every band in the metalcore genre has used more than once
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#40
its the riff from unholy confessions... i think. but its a bit different
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