#1
So I am trading off my Marshall JCM 900 Hi-Gain Master Volume head today for a head with more gain and 6L6 tubes. I got offered a 6505+ head for it, and should be trading later today. My question is, what is the big difference between the 6505 and 6505+? I know a lot of metal bands use both, but would the 6505+ be suited well for metalcore and hardcore, such as TDWP (who use them) and an August Burn Red tone (who use the regular 6505)?
Gear:

Fender Roadhouse Strat
EC-1000 JB/'59
Fender Mark Hoppus bass
Eleven Rack
Peavey Classic 50 power amp
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GK Neo 4x10
#2
all its got is a reverb i think but i dunno if the tones any different
#3
Ah alright. Thats my main goal is to have pretty much the same tone outta the 6505+ as the 6505. I dont have any local shops around here that carry the 6505 amps because they all wanna carry Mesa. Im burnt out on my Mesas tone, and wanted something tighter.
Gear:

Fender Roadhouse Strat
EC-1000 JB/'59
Fender Mark Hoppus bass
Eleven Rack
Peavey Classic 50 power amp
Avatar 2x12
GK Neo 4x10
#4
Nice gear by the way, have you tried listening online for videos of both. I imagen the tonal diffrences would be subtle.
#5
The 6505 has five preamp tubes. The 6505+ has six preamp tubes. Both are great amplifiers with massive gain that are spectacular for metalcore, thrash, grindcore, and any other form of apocalyptic metal that you can think of.
#6
Quote by Shredy_Mc_shred
Nice gear by the way, have you tried listening online for videos of both. I imagen the tonal diffrences would be subtle.


Thanks. It took lots of saving to get it all lol. Im hoping this 6505+ is tight so it can replace my Mesa as my primary amp.
Gear:

Fender Roadhouse Strat
EC-1000 JB/'59
Fender Mark Hoppus bass
Eleven Rack
Peavey Classic 50 power amp
Avatar 2x12
GK Neo 4x10
#8
The 6505+ will be a little bit more versatile in the sense that you get two independent EQs and independent resonance/presence controls, but it still has an ungodly amount of gain on tap. You should have no issues cranking out some ABR tones.
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#9
6505+ has better cleans but slightly less gain i think.

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#11
Same thing, you cwill barely notice the difference in ones. The + has better cleans, and has very slightly less gain (but still more than enough) to the point you can barley notice it, and is also smoother.
#12
the + has smoother, more musical, less raw gain, and a better sounding clean channel. its fairly subtle though
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gear:
Ibanez RG7321 w/ D-sonic in bridge

Peavey 5150 mk ii & b52 4x12 cab

line 6 podxt for recording

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#13
The 6505+ is good for you. The gain is tight and plentiful. You can get the clean channel fairly clean or turn up the gain for conventional rock tones. I actually liked it a lot when I played it. I haven't played the other one, but you shouldn't have a problem getting your desired tones. Just don't overdo the gain man. It has A LOT.
#14
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the + has smoother, more musical, less raw gain, and a better sounding clean channel. its fairly subtle though

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periphery/bulb!

gear:
Ibanez RG7321 w/ D-sonic in bridge

Peavey 5150 mk ii & b52 4x12 cab

line 6 podxt for recording

Quote by AsOneIStand
Head and Cab for $130? You don't need a head and cabinet, you need a psychological examination.