#1
so i'm looking for a 212 cab for my randall rh150, i play mostly metal and don't know which one to choose, i'm beetween the tradicional and the contemporary, are there any avatar cab users that can describe the sound of each cab?


http://avatarspeakers.com/Contemporary%20212.htm

http://avatarspeakers.com/g212h.htm
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#2
basically cosmetic differences, you choose what speakers you want and stuff.
#3
Contemporary all the way. The Traditional looks thin a whimpy.
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Contemporary all the way. The Traditional looks thin a whimpy.

Unless you are putting a Bassman on it, which looks godly.

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Thanks 311, I think this thread has now been sufficiently sex-ified.

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TS: Call Dave at Avatar and talk it though with him to see if there are any tonal differences. As far as I know they are exactly the same except the wood used on the front is thicker to give it a rugged look but the actual Birch wood that makes the cab is the same thickness. I could be wrong.
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TS: Call Dave at Avatar and talk it though with him to see if there are any tonal differences. As far as I know they are exactly the same except the wood used on the front is thicker to give it a rugged look but the actual Birch wood that makes the cab is the same thickness. I could be wrong.

BTW I just opened up my Avatar the other night... Those things are so solid, the wood in there looks great. I was really blown away by the construction and material quality.
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^Couldn't agree more tube. I was very happy with what I saw once I 'finally' got the back off. Very well built imo.

Haha, so well built I couldn't get the back off... I had to just peek through the handle cuts. You make me jealous with the Classic Lead 80 though... I was in a rush when I ordered and didn't do as much research as I should have, I regret not mixing a CL 80 in there with my V30.

Back on topic - TS I photoshopped my head onto one of the pics on the site to help decide how it would look. As 311 said, Dave is really helpful and will tell you the, if any, difference tonally, but I don't think there are any.
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You're right guys, whimpy is just my opinion. Nothing against the Trad style I'm sure they're built and sound great. I'm just not a fan of the Fender type of cab design.
I personally think they pair well with classic and vintage type amps like the Bassman above, but for more modern amps I think the Contemporary matches up better. Or even the oversized Vintage cab (Bogner clone)
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You're right guys, whimpy is just my opinion. Nothing against the Trad style I'm sure they're built and sound great. I'm just not a fan of the Fender type of cab design.
I personally think they pair well with classic and vintage type amps like the Bassman above, but for more modern amps I think the Contemporary matches up better. Or even the oversized Vintage cab (Bogner clone)

I agree completely. If I had a 5150 or something I would definitely go contemporary. But for my Bassman, and 311's Splawn I think the traditional is perfect.
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I ordered a Traditional the other day, simply because I thought the Contemporary was TOO beefy looking. Different strokes for different folks, they say.

Of course, I also got mine in blue tolex...because I'm a geek, my amp LEDS are blue, and I reaaaally like blue.

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#14
so the contemporary wouldn't add more bass than the traditional because is beefier?

i would prefer the traditional because i know is lighter than the contemporary (i'm a lazy guy), and the traditional looks like a fender cab so obviously dont want a fender tone for metal
ibanez rg370dx (Crunchlab/Area 58/Liquifire)
ibanez rgr320ex (EMG 81/85)
ibanez grx20 (Super 3/PAF PRO)
ibanez gsr205 bass
randall rh150 head
avatar 2x12 contemporary cab (GK-100's)
boss GT8
ibanez weeping demon wah
line 6 ux1
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so the contemporary wouldn't add more bass than the traditional because is beefier?

i would prefer the traditional because i know is lighter than the contemporary (i'm a lazy guy), and the traditional looks like a fender cab so obviously dont want a fender tone for metal

Maybe a tad bit more bass, because of the weight... But I'd be willing to bet its negligible at least for human ears. The Fender looks of the cab have nothing to do with the tone, though... My Avatar has V30s in it, and though I use it with a Fender, if I put a 5150 or something on it, I guarantee it'd get as brootal as anything.
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#16
i like the classic the best lol
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Maybe a tad bit more bass, because of the weight... But I'd be willing to bet its negligible at least for human ears. The Fender looks of the cab have nothing to do with the tone, though... My Avatar has V30s in it, and though I use it with a Fender, if I put a 5150 or something on it, I guarantee it'd get as brootal as anything.


+1

I have Celestions in mine too (obviously) and with the closed backs it will be far from a 'Fender' type tone.

If someone wanted more of the open, chimey feel for something like a Twin, then the open back Vintage cab would be the way to go.
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+1

I have Celestions in mine too (obviously) and with the closed backs it will be far from a 'Fender' type tone.

If someone wanted more of the open, chimey feel for something like a Twin, then the open back Vintage cab would be the way to go.

Worth noting they now have convertible backs so you can interchange...
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classic 412 ftw
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^Thanks, I was just going to Edit that the Traditional cabs can be had in Open back as well, and yes the convertible option seems cool, but I wonder about the 'stability' or 'rigidity' of those.


I would think its all about how much you switch... If you go months with it one way then switch for a few months etc. I'm sure you're fine. If you want to switch mid-gig 3 nights a week, not so much.
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