#1
I've tried the Vypyr, and it did't really pleased me...is the sound of the Line 6 Spider IV 75 better??
my mt-2+Mg30 isn´t worst than the Vypyr
#2
Just a heads up, you're gonna get a number of people saying you can do better... What's your budget and what genres do you play?
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#4
Around 300 euros, 400 dollars..
Right now, trivium, Iron maiden,slipknot... I really hate to tweek around if I want to play Amon amarth, and 10 minutes later Maiden(it will take ages to find a good sound), so I was thinking, a Spider,where all I have to do is press a few things and i can get a good maiden sound right away..
#6
Quote by tasanhalas
Around 300 euros, 400 dollars..
Right now, trivium, Iron maiden,slipknot... I really hate to tweek around if I want to play Amon amarth, and 10 minutes later Maiden(it will take ages to find a good sound), so I was thinking, a Spider,where all I have to do is press a few things and i can get a good maiden sound right away..


But these bands all have different sounds, amps and different tunings even!
It's normal you have to tweak around.

But let me tell you one thing: you don't want a modelling amp if you really want a Maiden/Triviumesque sound, you want a Blackstar HT-5. 5 watt tube amp, that can change between a British (Maiden) and an American (Trivium/Slipknot) sound. And it ain't that pricy. I think you an get the comob within your budget.

Or else save up for the Peavey 6505 1x12.
Last edited by TheOpenMind at Nov 20, 2009,
#7
But what I really want is really good distortion. and the only effect i might use is reverb.

I've always heard, 5w tube amps is just wasting money
#8
Quote by tasanhalas
But what I really want is really good distortion. and the only effect i might use is reverb.

I've always heard, 5w tube amps is just wasting money

they've become so popular now that they are pretty good, i'm getting the ht-5 for christmass to play everything from blues to metal, that's how versatile a 5 watt tube amp is
#9
Quote by tasanhalas
But what I really want is really good distortion. and the only effect i might use is reverb.

I've always heard, 5w tube amps is just wasting money


Well, I won't start that discussion, but even if it only has 5 watts it's still miles above the Spider when it comes to distortion.

But if you really don't want a 5w tube, then you can get a hella loud 60w amp.
But that will mean saving up.

tl;dr: Just get the HT-5.
Last edited by TheOpenMind at Nov 20, 2009,
#10
Another problem is, I can´t find the HT-5 in Lisbon, where I live...so it's really not an option
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Don't get the Ibanez, it's even worse than the Spider and Vypyr.



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#14
^ it's a risk you'll have to take if all that's on offer to try is a load of spider's and vypyr's
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#16
Correction: Everybody hates the Spider. The Vypyr can actually achieve decent tone (especially considering it's a low end modeler).

The Vypyr works better when you take some time to fiddle around with the EQ and the amp models and the stompboxes.
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#17
I have to say, i really liked the spider IV.
Well, considering the price and whats it meant for.
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#18
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Correction: Everybody hates the Spider. The Vypyr can actually achieve decent tone (especially considering it's a low end modeler).

The Vypyr works better when you take some time to fiddle around with the EQ and the amp models and the stompboxes.
+1

The Vypyr is moderately hard to dial in, but once you dial your tone in, it's great.
#19
blackheart or Blackstar HT-5 or 6505+ combo
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#20
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+1

The Vypyr is moderately hard to dial in, but once you dial your tone in, it's great.

I've been meaning to fiddle around with mine, but it lives at my drummers house (WAAAY too big for solo practice, lol).
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#21
while i know its no that great for distortion how about a fender super champ?
#22
^ Its not a metal amp, the voicing isn't right for metal imo.

I'd suggest take the chane and buy online, get the blackstar and a cheap overdrive incase you wanna play the br00tlz, like a bad monkey.
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#23
listen to you-gee,they know what they talking about
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#24
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I've been meaning to fiddle around with mine, but it lives at my drummers house (WAAAY too big for solo practice, lol).
Yeah the bigger Peavey combo's are a bitch to move.
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Where the hell did that come into play!???

Get the blackstar you won't regret it.

Or if you think 5 watts is wimpy(it isn't you fool!)

Get the 60 watt amp I'm getting

B-52 at 221, it's got a rectifier in it for the brootz, and jazzy cleans too.
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#27
I need to clarify this:

The HT-5 will NOT do metal without a boost, even with some nice humbuckers it will get to around Kill 'em All levels of gain.

It CANNOT sound like an american amp, it's british and will never sound like a Mesa unless you have an EQ for some heavy tweaking (although i was able to get an awesome Recto tone out of it this way)

It does NOT sound modern, it's very much vintage voiced. You will need a couple pedals to go with it because it isn't the right choice for Trivium, Maiden maybe but not Trivium.
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#28
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Where the hell did that come into play!???

Get the blackstar you won't regret it.

Or if you think 5 watts is wimpy(it isn't you fool!)

Get the 60 watt amp I'm getting

B-52 at 221, it's got a rectifier in it for the brootz, and jazzy cleans too.


lol, all amps have rectifiers and it definitely is not the reason for br00talz either

Although it is a good suggestion, for what TS wants i would rec it over the Blackstar
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#29
Quote by westdyolf
Where the hell did that come into play!???

Get the blackstar you won't regret it.

Or if you think 5 watts is wimpy(it isn't you fool!)

Get the 60 watt amp I'm getting

B-52 at 221, it's got a rectifier in it for the brootz, and jazzy cleans too.



What is a "B-52 at 221"??
#30
b-52 is the amp company

at 212 is the model
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#31
Quote by tasanhalas
What is a "B-52 at 221"??

It's actually a B-52 212; that means that the company B-52 makes the amp, and it has 2 12" speakers in it, making it a combo amp.

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I need to clarify this:

The HT-5 will NOT do metal without a boost, even with some nice humbuckers it will get to around Kill 'em All levels of gain.

YouTube might disagree with you.

Quote by TOMMYB22
It does NOT sound modern, it's very much vintage voiced. You will need a couple pedals to go with it because it isn't the right choice for Trivium, Maiden maybe but not Trivium.

According to Wikipedia, Trivium is using a Marshall JVM2 and a Peavey 5150; in other words, each guitarist is using a different kind of voicing, which means that one amp probably wouldn't do both anyway.

Quote by tasanhalas
But what I really want is really good distortion. and the only effect i might use is reverb.

I've always heard, 5w tube amps is just wasting money

It takes 10x the wattage to produce twice the volume in tube amplifiers.

The HT-5 and 6505 112 combo are both very solid options. You should also check out The Gear For Metal Thread.