#1
Looking for a new bridge pickup for a Godin Lg (all mahogany, Bolt-on, Rosewood Fretboard). Currently have an air norton (neck) and tone zone (bridge). The tone zone is way to muddy. I need something of moderate output that could also be used for higher gain tones. I'm thinking a Paf Joe mabey?
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#2
New amp? But try a D-Sonic or a Super Distortion.
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Dimarzio Norton
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#4
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Dimarzio Norton


I don't think that the Norton is what he wants for a bridge pickup in terms of output and voicing, but that is still an excellent pickup.
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Quote by Mur
Looking for a new bridge pickup for a Godin Lg (all mahogany, Bolt-on, Rosewood Fretboard). Currently have an air norton (neck) and tone zone (bridge). The tone zone is way to muddy. I need something of moderate output that could also be used for higher gain tones. I'm thinking a Paf Joe mabey?


I've never really heard of a tone zone getting muddy, how high is your gain? I think you need to switch to a ceramic pickup.
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I don't think that the Norton is what he wants for a bridge pickup in terms of output and voicing, but that is still an excellent pickup.


moderate output capable of high gain tones?

you betcha. the Norton is a great choice for that.
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#8
Quote by Slanderous666
I've never really heard of a tone zone getting muddy, how high is your gain? I think you need to switch to a ceramic pickup.


in mahogany the tone zone can get real muddy.
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#9
Quote by JLT73
in mahogany the tone zone can get real muddy.


As much as I love dimarzio pickups seymour duncan pups have a wider selection of more trebly pups for mahogany.
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Tone Zone...

Muddy?

Damned right, it's a finicky pickup at the best of times.
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#12
The Norton and D-sonic are good choices if you want to stay in the DiMarzio family.The Norton has a unique voicing for a mid output pickup,and it can handle higher gain tones within reason.The D-sonic is specifically designed to maintain note clarity and definition in high gain situations and low tunings,so it'd be a good choice if you plan on detuning/playing with higher gain on a regular basis.

My vote would be D-sonic,just because I love the tone and versatility it offers.

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The Norton and D-sonic are good choices if you want to stay in the DiMarzio family.The Norton has a unique voicing for a mid output pickup,and it can handle higher gain tones within reason.The D-sonic is specifically designed to maintain note clarity and definition in high gain situations and low tunings,so it'd be a good choice if you plan on detuning/playing with higher gain on a regular basis.

My vote would be D-sonic,just because I love the tone and versatility it offers.



How does the d-sonic sound at standard tuning? Expressive? The "steve's special" pickup from dimarzio may also work.
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How does the d-sonic sound at standard tuning? Expressive? The "steve's special" pickup from dimarzio may also work.


In my experiences it's a very dynamic and expressive pup in any tuning.The harmonic characteristics and note clarity make it a great lead pickup,and it has nice touch sensitivity and response to picking/playing dynamics.The steve's special is very nice as well.I'm still waiting to try out the new crunch lab model,but I've heard good things about it as well.

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In my experiences it's a very dynamic and expressive pup in any tuning.The harmonic characteristics and note clarity make it a great lead pickup,and it has nice touch sensitivity and response to picking/playing dynamics.The steve's special is very nice as well.I'm still waiting to try out the new crunch lab model,but I've heard good things about it as well.


Not trying to hijack the thread but I currently have a single humbucker poplar bodied maple neck guitar. I'm looking for a pickup that will be expressive and clear and will let the beautiful natural tones of the poplar shine through. I've been looking at the dimarzio tone zone, dimarzio D-sonic and the Rio grande crunch box. Any input would be appreciated :P

Also to the TS I recommend checking rio grande pickups out.
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Not trying to hijack the thread but I currently have a single humbucker poplar bodied maple neck guitar. I'm looking for a pickup that will be expressive and clear and will let the beautiful natural tones of the poplar shine through. I've been looking at the dimarzio tone zone, dimarzio D-sonic and the Rio grande crunch box. Any input would be appreciated :P

Also to the TS I recommend checking rio grande pickups out.



I'd give the d-sonic a shot,since it's more clear and expressive than a TZ IMO.I don't know much about Rio pups,so I can't really give an opinion on the crunch box.

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I'd give the d-sonic a shot,since it's more clear and expressive than a TZ IMO.I don't know much about Rio pups,so I can't really give an opinion on the crunch box.


My main worry with the D-sonic was that it wouldn't do well with a bluesy type of tone. I'll probably be moving the existing music man humbucker to the neck position as it isn't bad, very reminiscent of a mid gain dimarzio pup.


To the TS check out the dimarzio super distortion, seymour duncan JB and seymour duncan distortion.
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My main worry with the D-sonic was that it wouldn't do well with a bluesy type of tone. I'll probably be moving the existing music man humbucker to the neck position as it isn't bad, very reminiscent of a mid gain dimarzio pup.


To the TS check out the dimarzio super distortion, seymour duncan JB and seymour duncan distortion.


Well,the d-sonic can change its voicing depending on how it's installed and what direction the solid bar faces (neck or bridge).I can't remember what position is what,but one gives more of a percussive and tight tone while the other gives a thicker and fatter sound,which would be better for blues.You could also wire it for coil splitting or series parallel wiring to help get lower gain blues tones.

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#19
The D Sonic has the best split sound of any humbucker I´ve tried so far. Especially with the bar towards the bridge.
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The D Sonic has the best split sound of any humbucker I´ve tried so far. Especially with the bar towards the bridge.



I will definitely consider the D-sonic then Thanks all!
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I will definitely consider the D-sonic then Thanks all!


Blade towards the bridge will give you a sharper more defined tone in humbucker mode and really strat like springy tone when split. If you put it away from the bridge it will still be defined but sound chunkier - split it will sound thicker than a strat, assuming you use the pole piece side for the split.
#23
Look at the Rock Monkey Warm Gorilla Fist - http://www.rockmonkeyguitars.com/warmgorillafist.htm
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Blade towards the bridge will give you a sharper more defined tone in humbucker mode and really strat like springy tone when split. If you put it away from the bridge it will still be defined but sound chunkier - split it will sound thicker than a strat, assuming you use the pole piece side for the split.


I would split the pole piece side for sure. The dimarzio site suggests the bar towards the neck for standard tuning. I don't detune so I am thinking I'll go with the blade away from the bridge.


To the TS rockfield pickups would be great for what you want. Rockfield mafia would work for you or a rockfield turbo.

PS Rockfields are also only 60$ which is a great deal.
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#25
Quote by steven seagull
Damned right, it's a finicky pickup at the best of times.


I have had it do lots of weird noises but muddy was never one of them. I don´t use a ton of gain though...