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#1
I enjoy the act of smoking a cigarette, but I really don't experience much of an effect from them. So I'd like to be able to smoke with my friends every once and a while, but I definitely don't want to make it a habit or anything. My two basic questions are: What is the most often I could smoke without presenting myself with the risk of addiction or with any serious health problems down the line? And what kind of cigarettes should I smoke to ensure the least health risks?

I did a quick search for other threads like this and didn't find any, but my apologies if there's already one out there that I missed.
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#3
Ok first off, you are going to hear this from people for and against smoking: addiction comes from the first cigarette.

Second, there is no such thing as a cigarette that is less healthy or more healthy. They all suck.

Third, I am a smoker. I smoke about 4 cigs a day. After doing that for about 2 years now, I can definitely feel it on my lungs. I have felt it for about a year now.

If you want to smoke occasionally, smoke no more than one a day. If you start smoking any more than that you will get addicted, if you don't already count one a day an addiction.

And lastly, no one here is going to supply "correct" answers. My answers aren't even "correct".

Just use your brain. You should know when to stop.
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Ok first off, you are going to hear this from people for and against smoking: addiction comes from the first cigarette.


Uh I only smoke when I'm around my pals that do, and im in no way addicted, even though in my estimate ive smoked 10 or so cigarettes in the past month or so I can live without them.
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#5
at least you acknowledge peer pressure!

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#6
seeing as how even just second hand smoke can screw up your lungs...

i'd have to say never for the first question, and keep your money for the second one.
#7
to be addicted you have to have tolerance, dependence, and symptoms of withdrawal. if you aren't experiencing withdrawals, then you aren't addicted.
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Uh I only smoke when I'm around my pals that do, and im in no way addicted, even though in my estimate ive smoked 10 or so cigarettes in the past month or so I can live without them.


Well that's good to hear.

I can absolutely remember my first real cigarette. I mean real as in I smoked it right. I went through several without feeling a thing, then a buddy of mine introduced me to how you breathe it in, and I felt like I was drunk as hell for 5 minutes. I seriously couldn't drive after I smoked one.

Three years later and it will take 4 cigs in a row to get to that point, of which by that time I am nauseous.

So I guess if you can smoke one cig, and still actually feel the effects in a more than mild form, then you aren't "addicted".

But seriously, I have to be the devils advocate and say that it is an addiction no matter what.
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#10
I smoke sometimes but am not addicted. I think I had about 2 this month but sometimes if I'm out drinking I 'll smoke a whole pack...then feel like shitt the next day.
#11
If you buy a pack, you're ****ed. took me a hair short of 5 years to finally quit.
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#12
The addiction from the first cigarette thing is bs. I smoke every now and again but I haven't even had a cigarette in about a week and in no way did I feel any sort of withdrawal symptoms at all. I can't even say that I miss them at all! Cigarettes are no different than any other drug, you must use them frequently to gain an addiction.
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#13
I smoke twice a week, tops. I haven't had one in a month or so. I use them to relieve stress, and to just make myself feel cool. Yeah, I admit it, smoking makes me feel cool. Anyone who says otherwise is a liar.

It's no bigger health risk than walking down the street with car exhaust blowing up your nostrils, if you only do it every once in a while. Don't get too broken up about it.
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#14
Okay, first off, I made a typo in my post that may have changed the implication. That's fixed now, so basically it says "I don't feel an effect" when I smoke, and that's probably because I don't inhale it. Which is because I don't want to inhale, because I'm certain that's worse for me. Also, I'm not so much worried about getting addicted as worried about any health risks associated with smoking no more than once a week. So, hypothetically, if I were to smoke only once a week, would I likely experience any noticeable health risks? I'm under the impression that the effects would be negligible, but if anyone has first-hand experience to back that up (or refute it), that would be great.

EDIT: I've also heard that cigarettes without additives are better for you. This seems like common sense, so I buy it. Are there any other attributes I should look for that lessen the health detriments?
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Okay, first off, I made a typo in my post that may have changed the implication. That's fixed now, so basically it says "I don't feel an effect" when I smoke, and that's probably because I don't inhale it. Which is because I don't want to inhale, because I'm certain that's worse for me. Also, I'm not so much worried about getting addicted as worried about any health risks associated with smoking no more than once a week. So, hypothetically, if I were to smoke only once a week, would I likely experience any noticeable health risks? I'm under the impression that the effects would be negligible, but if anyone has first-hand experience to back that up (or refute it), that would be great.

EDIT: I've also heard that cigarettes without additives are better for you. This seems like common sense, so I buy it. Are there any other attributes I should look for that lessen the health detriments?


If you don't inhale, there are no health risks. The harmful chemicals and addictive properties have no way of entering your blood stream.
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#16
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Well that's good to hear.

I can absolutely remember my first real cigarette. I mean real as in I smoked it right. I went through several without feeling a thing, then a buddy of mine introduced me to how you breathe it in, and I felt like I was drunk as hell for 5 minutes. I seriously couldn't drive after I smoked one.

Three years later and it will take 4 cigs in a row to get to that point, of which by that time I am nauseous.

So I guess if you can smoke one cig, and still actually feel the effects in a more than mild form, then you aren't "addicted".

But seriously, I have to be the devils advocate and say that it is an addiction no matter what.


One thing my doctor told me too. Some people have apparently got some lung 'condition' as it were or some predisposition which means basically the damage from things is multiplyed significantly, around 50% so someone on 10 a month = 20 a month, not really bad but imagine someone smoking like 60 a day :|
#17
I smoke twice a week, tops. I haven't had one in a month or so. I use them to relieve stress, and to just make myself feel cool. Yeah, I admit it, smoking makes me feel cool. Anyone who says otherwise is a liar.

It's no bigger health risk than walking down the street with car exhaust blowing up your nostrils, if you only do it every once in a while. Don't get too broken up about it.


You have zero clue what you're talking about. Once you realize that your lungs are in rough shape after half a decade of smoking continuously, you don't feel cool. At all. It's a terrible addiction, it's great that you haven't gone through it, but give me a ****ing break you clueless rag, smoking was great for a while. But once you reach that point, when you realize you don't like that you are paying money to slowly kill your body and you can seriously feel it, it becomes terrible to quit. The withdrawal symptoms are sooooo obnoxious and on your mind all the time. It's very difficult to kick an addiction to nicotine.

If you don't inhale, there are no health risks. The harmful chemicals and addictive properties have no way of entering your blood stream.


How can you be so painfully ignorant? It's common knowledge that smoking is a cause of mouth cancers of various types, and smoking without inhaling is a great way to fast-track to dentures. Leukoplakia and erythroplakia are other mouth diseases associated with smoking. Leukoplakia are white and thickened patches. Erythroplakia are red patches, sometimes bleeding. Both leukoplakia and erythroplakia, if left untreated, become cancer.

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You have zero clue what you're talking about. Once you realize that your lungs are in rough shape after half a decade of smoking continuously, you don't feel cool. At all. It's a terrible addiction, it's great that you haven't gone through it, but give me a ****ing break you clueless rag, smoking was great for a while. But once you reach that point, when you realize you don't like that you are paying money to slowly kill your body and you can seriously feel it, it becomes terrible to quit. The withdrawal symptoms are sooooo obnoxious and on your mind all the time. It's very difficult to kick an addiction to nicotine.


I could go outside and get hit by a bus and be killed instantaneously, but I still go outside. Why? Because the outside is fun.

Stop taking life so seriously, we're all just going to die anyway.
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#19
I guess the addiction factor varies from person to person. I smoked pretty consistently for about a week and a half and during that time I even smoked 7 cigs in a day once. I didn't get addicted at all and I haven't smoked in about 3 weeks.
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I could go outside and get hit by a bus and be killed instantaneously, but I still go outside. Why? Because the outside is fun.

Stop taking life so seriously, we're all just going to die anyway.


With the depth of knowledge you apparently possess, yeah sure you could probably get hit by a bus. Dude that's such a stupid example it's not even funny. Public transit is an ordered system with foregone conclusions, like you getting on the bus, or off, or you crossing the road while the bus is at a light or something. Smoking is a real gamble with your life, departing from foregone conclusions to question marks like gee, will i live to see my kids grow up? Will i even live long enough to have kids? Hundreds of Thousands of cigarette-related deaths occur every year in North America alone. It's great that you're so blissful in your own world, but not knowing doesn't mean that smoking still isn't terrible for you. Any real smoker will tell you the effects are very apparent and destructive.
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#22
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You won't be an infrequent smoker for long...
If you're really worried about getting addicted, smoking socially is a big risk.
But once every few weeks or so, you'll be fine, and if your friends all smoke there'll be a big smoke intake anyway.

not necessarily ive been an infrequent smoker for over a year now and i have yet to get cravings
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With the depth of knowledge you apparently possess, yeah sure you could probably get hit by a bus. Dude that's such a stupid example it's not even funny. Public transit is an ordered system with foregone conclusions, like you getting on the bus, or off, or you crossing the road while the bus is at a light or something. Hundreds of Thousands of cigarette-related deaths occur every year in North America alone. It's great that you're so blissful in your own world, but not knowing doesn't mean that smoking still isn't terrible for you. Any real smoker will tell you the effects are very apparent and destructive.


I'm not debating it's harmfulness, it's simply the fact that I don't care. I choose to smoke, and so do those who die. They knew the risks, took them, and died. If you're expecting me to feel empathy you are sorely mistaken.

The fact that you are so hostile is also rather amusing. Accept that not everyone thinks the same way you do, and move on.
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#24
The best way is to not smoke. And what effect do you expect? They aren't meant to have an effect
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#25
Man, I used to smoke. I just quit a few months ago so I could buy a new guitar with the money and you shouldn't take it up unless you want an eccuse to sbuy a talor.
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#26
I've smoked infrequently, as in really infrequently and it doesn't really affect me much. I also only smoke cigars and I don't inhale. Last I smoked was about a month ago, and the last time before that was about four months before that.

Even smoking that infrequently, there are still times when I feel like, "man, I want a cigar".

Seeing as I'm either not a bitch or not addicted at all... I just choose not to smoke.

If you're capable of honestly making the choice to not smoke when you want one, and only smoke every few months... I think you'll be fine. Make no mistake that they still can't do any good for you, and you still pose a risk to addiction, cancers of the mouth, lungs and throat, and you even subject yourself to the risk of emphysema.

Just don't do it that often, like... REALLY not that often.

One last thing, there is no such thing as a "safe" cigarette, don't waste your time trying to find one. Cigars smell and taste better anyway .
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I'm not debating it's harmfulness, it's simply the fact that I don't care. I choose to smoke, and so do those who die. They knew the risks, took them, and died. If you're expecting me to feel empathy you are sorely mistaken.

The fact that you are so hostile is also rather amusing. Accept that not everyone thinks the same way you do, and move on.


If you don't give a damn about whether you live or not, that's cool.
But you did say that there are no health risks if you don't inhale, and it was pointed out that this is not the case. No ones arguing whether or not living is worth it or not, but don't tell this guy what isn't right.
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#28
Personally, I think it really depends on the person. For example, I gave up cold turkey about a week ago, and I haven't really been affected that much. I'm a bit more tired than usual, that's about it. But there are other I know who couldn't go a day without having at least one.

Smoking isn't a good thing, I say, don't bother, save your money.
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#29
Roll your own cigarettes. Most bagged tobacco doesn't really have nicotine in it
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#30
why would you spend money to do something that has no effects and kills you?? i never understood that......
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why would you spend money to do something that has no effects and kills you?? i never understood that......

i think it's funny how many people in this thread think that cigarettes don't have any effect.

but it really depends on the person as far as addiction goes. i smoke once or twice every few days, don't feel any ill effects if i don't smoke for a few weeks.

it's all about knowing your limits and being responsible.
#32
I used to smoke a few once or twice a week when drinking but I realised tobacco does nothing for me and is a waste of money. The occasional joint is so much better.
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#33
answer to question one: anything less than 5 packs a day is perfectly safe

answer to question two: unfiltered Camels.
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#34
I feel I'm somewhat addicted as I've come to associate a drunken mind frame with smoking. So every now and then I'll buy a deck whilst intoxicated and smoke away.
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#37
I'd never smoke in a million years. Seeing a man in hospital with throat cancer who'd had his voicebox taken out assured that to me.
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#38
I only smoke when given them by friends and I never buy them, nor am I addicted.
I have smoked a fair bit in the last month because I am just trying to go with the flow/enjoy life for a while until uni starts.
I will probably stop accepting them soon anyway, smoking does nothing for me too.
#39
I really do think smoking threads should be banned.

I have no problem with smokers or anti-smokers, i smoke once a week. I do however, have a problem with the stupid arguments in every single smoking thread.
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#40
Why not instead of smoking, put the money you would've put towards cigarettes in a jar and see how much money you have in there after two months?
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