#1
Hi guys!

So, hopefully soon I'll be getting my first PROPER amp! The only amps I've had are a 10w practice Yamaha amp (which is sadly my "main" amp), a Marshall MG (broken) and Vox Valvetronix (also broken)

I'm VERY influenced by Eric Johnson, and love the clean settings he gets from his Fender Twins, but also love his driven tone from the Marshalls as well, so my question is..

Can a Marshall do relatively good cleans BETTER than a Fender does a relatively good driven tone?

Of course, I'm not limiting myself to those two makes, so any advice is VERY appreciated! If it makes any difference, I'm going to be buying some pedals as well to go with the amp, so a driven tone can be replicated from that, but I need some advice please?

Thanks!
Tom!

Tl:dr - Marshall Clean tones > Fender Driven tones. Or any other amps that I should look into?
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#2
What's your budget?
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Can a Marshall do relatively good cleans BETTER than a Fender does a relatively good driven tone?


that really depends on which you need more, and which you need to be more authentic. Marshall cleans won't really sound like fender cleans, and fender dirt won't really sound like marshall dirt.

i'm not too well up on vintage fenders, but just by listening to loads of clips, some of the vintage fenders had very nice overdrive (the tweeds, especially). and the earliest marshall was pretty much a copy of a tweed fender bassman, i think, but with british-style valves, speakers and cabs (and presumably transformers and other components etc. too)..

as jak says, we need to have a budget. There are a lot of people making marshall and fender clones, and they're likely to be better value, not to mention closer to the original spec, than either fender or marshall.

Problem regarding eric johnson (and as i said, i'm not too well up on vintage fenders) is that his clean tone is more blackface in tone, i think. And the fenders with the best overdrive are tweeds, I think.
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#4
Marshall has never been the leading brand for cleans.

But for both Fender cleans and classic Marshall drive I'd suggest a high end Fender tube combo and a Rothwell Hellbender pedal.

It will get you great cleans and really good classic Marshall tones.

Here's a demo:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Is4sFNZeuwQ
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#5
^THis was exactly what I was thinking
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