#1
Hi, I have recently bought a Blackstar Series 1 200, but the shop didnt have the 4 x 12 in stock, so i took a 2 x 12 instead. Whilst trying it out in the store, the guy in the shop set it up and it sounded like a nice crisp metal sound. I have tried, but cant get this sound.

Can anyone advise a) Is this cab ok? b) how to get a good metal sound to start with.

This is my 1st cab/head so i am confused.

Thanks

Nathan
#2
Probably your EQ settings.

How did you set the EQ and which channel/mode do you use?

Also, which cab did you play it through in the shop?
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#3
I have channel OD2, the power in the middle, and presence about 8 oclock. Bass about 3 oclock, middle 6 oclock and treble about 3 oclock. It was a 4 x 12 blackstar one.

Master volume about 6 oclock and channel volume up quite a bit.

Is the cab i bought good enough?

thanks
#4
what 2x12 cab did you buy?
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#5
Work around a bit with your EQ.

Bring the gain up to about 7, probably scoop your mids a bit with a setting like this:
Bass: 7
Mids: 4
Treble: 7

Put the presence down a bit, probably use your channel volume for the volume instead of the master, DPR to 20W and play around with the ISF.
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#7
Quote by nathansavidge
I bought a black star artisan 2 x 12. Thanks, i'll try that.


The Artisan is loaded with V30 speakers so it should be alright. It's probably your EQ then. You're just going to have to play around with the EQ. There is no definitive 'metal sound'...the only definite part is that the gain is set quite high. Other then that...it really depends what metal you're playing.
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#8
Quote by nathansavidge
I have channel OD2, the power in the middle, and presence about 8 oclock. Bass about 3 oclock, middle 6 oclock and treble about 3 oclock. It was a 4 x 12 blackstar one.

Master volume about 6 oclock and channel volume up quite a bit.

Is the cab i bought good enough?

thanks


Definitely the EQ settings, for a more crisp tone up the treble bring the bass to around noon and then the mids to taste, I usually have my mids high but I like a fat rock tone rather than metal.
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#9
umm, You've got a 200W head but they set you up with a 120W cab.

You might want to think about exchanging that. (don't even start talking about the DPR knob or I'll kick you in the nuts)
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#10
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umm, You've got a 200W head but they set you up with a 120W cab.

You might want to think about exchanging that. (don't even start talking about the DPR knob or I'll kick you in the nuts)

Good point.

If there are no matching cabs just get a 4x12 Marshall 1960 AV or a Orange PPC412 cab, just something with more than 200W.
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#11
i was just about to point it out^ but i don't want a cyber nut kicking
its only really a problem if he's pushing the amp A LOT
but its definately your EQ settings gain up to about 3 o clock presence to probably 2 o clock (maybe less depending on your taste) middle up abit bass to anywhere between 2 o clock and 9 treble just match to your taste
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#12
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its only really a problem if he's pushing the amp A LOT
It's mostly an academic problem at this point. Nevertheless, the store shouldn't have sold him a cab that he'd be able to blow out the first time he flexes the volume knob.
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