Oh My God, "game makers should work harder to remind players about real world limits"

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#1
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/8373794.stm

Seriously man, what the ****. We know that games aren't supposed to reflect real life limits, and the only games I've played for more than an hour a week this whole year have been modern warfare 2 and mass effect....I'm actually shocked that this story got posted.

Read the story. You'll cringe.
#4
Now where's Jack Thompson when you need him.

Oh yeah, disbarred for being a fucking shit lawyer and neo-con nutcase.

That's settled then.
#5
It's a game. Not the developer's fault if someone forgets what the differences between fantasy and reality are.

I haven't finished the article yet, but I would bet my bottom dollar that they are going to talk about the airport level in MW2.
#6
We can just kill them anyway though right?
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#7
So does this mean I really CAN'T use the Force like Starkiller in Star Wars: The Force Unleashed?
#10
Seems like whoever wrote the article can see how they've misunderstood things as well.
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#12
Yea, this is totally necessary, because I keep forgetting that IRL, I can't just hit F5, say whatever dumb sh*t comes into my head, and reload and start over...
#14
Even though I don't mind violence in videogames, I still find the Modern Warfare 2 airport thing to be in extremely poor taste.
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Even though I don't mind violence in videogames, I still find the Modern Warfare 2 airport thing to be in extremely poor taste.



That's the point. You're supposed to react to it.
#16
Quote by Andrew C. S.
Even though I don't mind violence in videogames, I still find the Modern Warfare 2 airport thing to be in extremely poor taste.


Agreed tbh...coulda been a cut scene...was pretty emotional when the *SPOILER SPOILER SPOILER SPOILER* guy got shot, cos like, the last thing he did was kill a bunch of innocent people...

Lol...this thread failed...but tbh it was that or a 'l0l 1 h4d g0t g1rls nd bj 0lolool' thread
#17
This is another step in the BBC's mission to crush all dreams. Sad.
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#19
So you can't escape the police by carrying a controller around and pressing R1 R2 L1 L2 Up Down Up Down?

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#20
The study condemned the games for violating laws by letting players kill civilians


Oh No! That's never been in a video game before!



It's a video game - a GAME.

I guess they should encourage little children to stop playing "ring around the rosey" so it doesn't affect their self esteem when they "all fall down."
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#22
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That's the point. You're supposed to react to it.

True, but I think the developers want me to react to it not in a "shocked" fashion, but more in a way that I'll morally evaluate what I just participated in. Hopefully, I'll feel empathetic and realize that terrorism & total war is wrong, which is exactly how I did feel.
#23
I think we should all get a grenade warning indicator in real life then.
Dumbasses.
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#24
Games Tested:


Metal Gear Solid







a game where you play as a clone fighting a bunch of waking robots, fat bombmakers on skates, a vampire, a russian gunslinger who has a split personality becuase of an arm transplant, a guy who likes bees, an old dude with a parrot, a cyborg ninja, and a guy who likes to fondle men.....
#27
where else am i going to get the chance to kill hundreds of innocent Russians
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#28
"Thus," said the report, "the line between the virtual and real experience becomes blurred and the game becomes a simulation of real life situations..."


That's the whole point of a video game, is it not? What's their point?
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#29
Quote by Andrew C. S.
Even though I don't mind violence in videogames, I still find the Modern Warfare 2 airport thing to be in extremely poor taste.

I found it pretty interesting to be in the eyes of a "terrorist", with motives that are far beyond religious interpretation, and found it an interesting twist in the plot, and a VERY plausible action that could lead to a very plausible war in that game.

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True Crime Streets of L.A.
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#31
Quote by Andrew C. S.
True, but I think the developers want me to react to it not in a "shocked" fashion, but more in a way that I'll morally evaluate what I just participated in. Hopefully, I'll feel empathetic and realize that terrorism & total war is wrong, which is exactly how I did feel.



Well......there you go then. Mission accomplished, innit? Not like the game mechanics change in that particular mission. The pixellated soldiers running towards you just turned into pixellated civilians retreating.

So what do these people want in regards to a "real" game? Being a UN soldier in some African warzone, being shot at by militants and waiting an hour until you're permitted by superiors to return fire?

I think it's a little insulting to the collective gaming communities' intelligence that others who haven't picked up a controller in their life think we will all take it the wrong way. Or they're pandering to the .01% who MAY take it the wrong way.
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#32
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Well......there you go then. Mission accomplished, innit? Not like the game mechanics change in that particular mission. The pixellated soldiers running towards you just turned into pixellated civilians retreating.

So what do these people want in regards to a "real" game? Being a UN soldier in some African warzone, being shot at by militants and waiting an hour until you're permitted by superiors to return fire?

I think it's a little insulting to the collective gaming communities' intelligence that others who haven't picked up a controller in their life think we will all take it the wrong way. Or they're pandering to the .01% who MAY take it the wrong way.

The sad part is the Geneva convention has been ignored/trampled underfoot for decades before any games that carry this level of sophistication were developed. I see no reason to jump on the "OMG were going to get brootal" wagon because of a freakin' video game.
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#33
The Freudian concept that applies to dreams can similarly be applied here; Video games are a way for one to overcome the barriers that moral constraints prevent us from doing. A.K.A., killing an enemy of ours has moral implications in real life, but in video games, it may actually be the goal.
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MW2 is the image in the article and they didn't test it.



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#35
These human rights activists piss me off, every last ****ing one of them, They never do anything to actually further their cause apart from go on retarded marches every now and again, they will never change anything.

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#36
I don't know why it pisses me off so much, but there is no such thing as Call of Duty 5, it is Call of Duty: Moder Warfare 2 or Call of Duty: World at War.
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#37
I once met a young man who had been shot in a shooting that he started. The only comment he made about whether he'd do it again is that he didn't know it hurt that badly to be shot. In video games, some character can be shot 18 times, and then go kill 28 people. It doesn't reflect reality. This simply means that undeveloped minds shouldn't be playing these kinds of games.

It's perfectly OK for an adult to play the games, but young children really shouldn't be exposed to so much violence without repercussions.
#38
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I don't know why it pisses me off so much, but there is no such thing as Call of Duty 5, it is Call of Duty: Moder Warfare 2 or Call of Duty: World at War.



QFT.

I'm so glad that I'm not the only one that got annoyed with that.

Surely their credibility must be low, as they can't even get the game title right.
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#39
Twenty games were scrutinised to see if the conflicts they portrayed and what players can do in the virtual theatres of war were subject to the same limits as in the real world.


i think these people just wanted an excuse to play call of duty instead of work

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#40
I'm understanding their point, that maybe some guy will play these games and go out and join the army under all the wrong assumptions, but surely they don't think gamers are that ****ing stupid?

Could you imagine how complicated warfare games would be if all the real world war rules were enforced? I have a hard enough time finishing Splinter Cell, without having to worry about breaking some treaty with a Russian country that was signed in 1920.
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