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#1
Does anyone know if a band has ever titled their first album "Greatest Hits"? I think it's pretty clever and ironic, what does the pit think? Has this been done before?
#2
Not sure, but along the same lines I was thinking that it would be equally ironic to start a band with a reunion tour.
#4
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#6
Oh mah gawd, that's like sooooooooooooo totally ironic!

Seriously, I'm sorry to sound so hostile, but what is it with people's obsession with irony these days? It seems that everyone's looking for irony in everything, and most people who label things as ironic aren't sure what it even means.

EDIT: Greatest Hits should be a band name. It probably is.
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#8
Seems cool, but I'd rather have an album that has a simple but original name. Like Animals.
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Oh mah gawd, that's like sooooooooooooo totally ironic!

Seriously, I'm sorry to sound so hostile, but what is it with people's obsession with irony these days? It seems that everyone's looking for irony in everything, and most people who label things as ironic aren't sure what it even means.

Because it's funny, perhaps?

And was the rant really necessary when this particular scenario is actually ironic?
#11
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Oh mah gawd, that's like sooooooooooooo totally ironic!

Seriously, I'm sorry to sound so hostile, but what is it with people's obsession with irony these days? It seems that everyone's looking for irony in everything, and most people who label things as ironic aren't sure what it even means.


Irony has been an obsession for a while. Irony is a form of humor, one that is extremely effective if done right.

Unfortunately, most people don't know what it actually is. I would not say that anything in this thread so far has been "Ironic". However, if a band were to call their first tour a "Farewell Tour", then I guess it could be ironic, unless of course it ended up being their last tour.

Regardless, you need to drop the hostility. Would you rather have slap-stick comedy or toilet humor everywhere?
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#16
The Weakerthans released an album called Reunion Tour even though they never broke up.
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#17
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That's everywhere already. I grew up with that.

fart lol


Everybody grew up with it. It's called childhood. However, as adults, would you rather have all the irony in the world replaced with toilet humor?
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#19
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Irony has been an obsession for a while. Irony is a form of humor, one that is extremely effective if done right.

Unfortunately, most people don't know what it actually is. I would not say that anything in this thread so far has been "Ironic". However, if a band were to call their first tour a "Farewell Tour", then I guess it could be ironic, unless of course it ended up being their last tour.

Regardless, you need to drop the hostility. Would you rather have slap-stick comedy or toilet humor everywhere?


Agreed, although I'm not sure how a Farewell Tour is any different than naming your first record Greatest Hits in terms of effective irony.

That being said, I think I'd only name that my first album if I knew it sucked. If you end up having 5 number 1 hits or something it would dilute the funny.
#21
Well, the Sex Pistols first album actually was their greatest hits album, if that counts.
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#22
mmm but what do you call your greatest hits album?? ...debate
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Agreed, although I'm not sure how a Farewell Tour is any different than naming your first record Greatest Hits in terms of effective irony.

That being said, I think I'd only name that my first album if I knew it sucked. If you end up having 5 number 1 hits or something it would dilute the funny.


Look up the meaning of "Farewell". If you still look to have many tours in the future, naming your first tour "Farewell Tour" is extremely ironic.

Greatest Hits doesn't imply an ending, it implies a stepping stone in your career. Therefore, it is not ironic.
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#26
Alien Ant Farm did.
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#27
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Impossible.

Greatest implies some level of being good.




Although, perhaps that serves to further reinforce the irony?

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Alien Ant Farm did.



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#29
Aphex Twin's first album was essentially a greatest hits record.


A "Greatest Misses" album would be pretty funny.

Oh wait, Devo did that...
#31
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Everybody grew up with it. It's called childhood. However, as adults, would you rather have all the irony in the world replaced with toilet humor?

Why take things to such extremes? I was just getting annoyed with it because it seemed that everyone I talk to keeps mentioning that something is ironic, whether or not it's relevant. It's a trend that I've only recently noticed. I've heard of "irony" for years, but over the past few months, it seems like everyone and their dog is ironic.
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Why take things to such extremes? I was just getting annoyed with it because it seemed that everyone I talk to keeps mentioning that something is ironic, whether or not it's relevant. It's a trend that I've only recently noticed. I've heard of "irony" for years, but over the past few months, it seems like everyone and their dog is ironic.


Well then, direct your hostility towards the idiots that don't know what irony is, instead of placing yourself on the same level as them by saying irony is overdone, because that is showing that you yourself don't know what irony is.

Besides, people have been misusing the word "irony" almost as long as the word "irony" has been around.
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Look up the meaning of "Farewell". If you still look to have many tours in the future, naming your first tour "Farewell Tour" is extremely ironic.

Greatest Hits doesn't imply an ending, it implies a stepping stone in your career. Therefore, it is not ironic.


You're implying irony only deals with things beginning and ending. If it's your first album and don't have many recognizable songs, naming it a compilation of all your previous hits is ironic.

Irony is defined as:
a state of affairs or an event that seems deliberately contrary to what one expects and is often amusing as a result

A debut titled Greatest Hits is deliberately contrary to what one expects of a first album.

I think you're failing in your pursuit to appear more knowledgeable than the rest of us here.
#34
Goldie Lookin' Chain did.
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Well then, direct your hostility towards the idiots that don't know what irony is, instead of placing yourself on the same level as them by saying irony is overdone, because that is showing that you yourself don't know what irony is.

Wat.

Sorry to have derailed the thread, but how does the proper use of irony in this thread render my claim that irony is overused invalid?
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You're implying irony only deals with things beginning and ending. If it's your first album and don't have many recognizable songs, naming it a compilation of all your previous hits is ironic.

Irony is defined as:
a state of affairs or an event that seems deliberately contrary to what one expects and is often amusing as a result

A debut titled Greatest Hits is deliberately contrary to what one expects of a first album.

I think you're failing in your pursuit to appear more knowledgeable than the rest of us here.


I'm not trying to appear more knowledgeable. However, there is something you're missing.

Greatest Hits as a first album can be contrary, but it is usually not. For example, most Coheed & Cambria fans would agree that if they were to make a Greatest Hits album, all but about three songs would be from Second Stage Turbine Blade. Most (True) Metallica fans would argue half the songs would be from Kill 'Em All. Get what I'm saying?

Besides, never did I say that irony had to be beginning - ending. I did point out that's what makes "Farewell Tour" ironic.

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Wat.

Sorry to have derailed the thread, but how does the proper use of irony in this thread render my claim that irony is overused invalid?


You specifically said that you are tired of people saying "that's ironic", even though most of the time they are incorrect.
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#37
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On a side note, I hate when a band names a self-titled album after about 5 other albums.


Agreed.

Billy Talent will probably keep naming their albums "Billy Talent (insert number)." Which is fine. However, when Killswitch Engage have their first album and fifth album as straight self titled albums, that's just lazy.
#38
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You specifically said that you are tired of people saying "that's ironic", even though most of the time they are incorrect.

I am tired of people calling things "ironic", and I did say most of the time, not all the time. The irony implied in this thread is the most correct usage I've seen in a while.

Anyway, I'm sorry to have offended you so much with my claim. Perhaps I shall take the time to consider the implications of expressing my honest opinions before posting next time.
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I'm not trying to appear more knowledgeable. However, there is something you're missing.

Greatest Hits as a first album can be contrary, but it is usually not. For example, most Coheed & Cambria fans would agree that if they were to make a Greatest Hits album, all but about three songs would be from Second Stage Turbine Blade. Most (True) Metallica fans would argue half the songs would be from Kill 'Em All. Get what I'm saying?

Besides, never did I say that irony had to be beginning - ending. I did point out that's what makes "Farewell Tour" ironic.


You specifically said that you are tired of people saying "that's ironic", even though most of the time they are incorrect.


So, I guess your argument deals more with how my example is situational? I suppose if you were to get into technical and specific examples (like those you listed), you would be correct. But I still hold that I think the fundamental concept is ironic. Indeed, a lot of bands' best albums are their initial ones. But I still don't think that constitutes a greatest hits album. Although it's a horrible source for most things, wikipedia defines a "greatest hits album" as:
a compilation album of successful, previously released songs by a particular music artist or band.

The operative words/phrases here are "compilation" and "previously released". Both of those invalidate a first album from being a "Greatest Hits".

I'd also like to address your Metallica statement: while you are probably right, "Greatest Hits" is hinged on popularity. Which is why Metallica's greatest hits contains their most popular songs, like "Enter Sandman".

Anyway, this argument is becoming quite convoluted... I say we agree to disagree.

On the original topic, could it be copyright infringement to name an album Greatest Hits when it's not a compilation (esp if a relatively established act like Alien Ant Farm did it)? How does that even work, legally?
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So, I guess your argument deals more with how my example is situational? I suppose if you were to get into technical and specific examples (like those you listed), you would be correct. But I still hold that I think the fundamental concept is ironic. Indeed, a lot of bands' best albums are their initial ones. But I still don't think that constitutes a greatest hits album. Although it's a horrible source for most things, wikipedia defines a "greatest hits album" as:
a compilation album of successful, previously released songs by a particular music artist or band.

The operative words/phrases here are "compilation" and "previously released". Both of those invalidate a first album from being a "Greatest Hits".

I'd also like to address your Metallica statement: while you are probably right, "Greatest Hits" is hinged on popularity. Which is why Metallica's greatest hits contains their most popular songs, like "Enter Sandman".

Anyway, this argument is becoming quite convoluted... I say we agree to disagree.

On the original topic, could it be copyright infringement to name an album Greatest Hits when it's not a compilation (esp if a relatively established act like Alien Ant Farm did it)? How does that even work, legally?


I have to say, I am glad you were able to give me a logical argument. I can see your point. Agree to disagree it is.

Album names are non-copyrightable (is that a word?). You're safe. For example, both Blind Guardian and Queen have albums called "A Night at the Opera".
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