#1
Im thinkin of buyin this amp but does it have enough gain to play metallica style stuff???

Thanks
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Im thinkin of buyin this amp but does it have enough gain to play metallica style stuff???

Thanks

There are better options at that price. It's an ok amp, the effects are pretty meh.
#5
It doesn't have enough gain on its own to do Metallica stuff. The most it'll get is Black Sabbath, and even then it could use an OD.

It's not ideal for Metallica-style stuff, either, because they never really used Marshalls that much after the first album.
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#6
No enough gain on its own.

The only low wattage amp that I know with enough gain to do metal on its on is the Krank Rev Jr Pro. Even the HT5 needs some overdriving for the higher gain metal tone.
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It doesn't have enough gain on its own to do Metallica stuff. The most it'll get is Black Sabbath, and even then it could use an OD.

It's not ideal for Metallica-style stuff, either, because they never really used Marshalls that much after the first album.

*Facepalm*

70% of metallica's rhythm tone and 50% of there lead is hotrodded plexies.

To answer your question, no. The onboard gain isn't enough, whats your budget?
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*Facepalm*

70% of metallica's rhythm tone and 50% of there lead is hotrodded plexies.


Don't facepalm me when you don't know what you're talking about.

http://www.metallicaworld.co.uk/james_hetfields_equipment.htm

http://www.allmetallica.com/info/equipment/james.php

http://www.allmetallica.com/info/equipment/kirk.php

http://www.metallicaworld.co.uk/kirk_hammetts_equipment.htm

Most of that looks like Mesa/Boogie equipment to me. None of Hetfield's equipment says Marshall according to that website, so I don't know where your statistics come from, and Hammett currently uses and endorses Randall amps, unless you're trying to argue that the amps they use are hot-rodded Marshalls, which is not true.

There's no single amp for a 'Metallica' tone. However, arguably their best known and most sought-after tones come from the Mesa/Boogie Mark series (particularly the IIC+) which was used for 'Master of Puppets'.
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you sure as hell won't get it from a haze, that's for certain.


And you probably won't get it for less than a grand, unless you get a Mark III black/no stripe or something, and even then it depends which Metallica tone you're talking about, given the large body of work they've done. You'd also have to consider that the methods of production and recording had a huge effect on their sound for each of their albums.
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#11
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Don't facepalm me when you don't know what you're talking about.

http://www.metallicaworld.co.uk/james_hetfields_equipment.htm

http://www.allmetallica.com/info/equipment/james.php

http://www.allmetallica.com/info/equipment/kirk.php

http://www.metallicaworld.co.uk/kirk_hammetts_equipment.htm

Most of that looks like Mesa/Boogie equipment to me. None of Hetfield's equipment says Marshall according to that website, so I don't know where your statistics come from, and Hammett currently uses and endorses Randall amps, unless you're trying to argue that the amps they use are hot-rodded Marshalls, which is not true.

There's no single amp for a 'Metallica' tone. However, arguably their best known and most sought-after tones come from the Mesa/Boogie Mark series (particularly the IIC+) which was used for 'Master of Puppets'.

Early metallica was all JMPs.
Mesa for the late 80's tone agreed.
The black album, was mesa triaxis and hotrodded plexies, the rest of 90's stuff sounded like crap anyway. Then go through the fly on the wall and see all the DSL100s in the studio for the most recent album

Cheers. Back on topic, TS, chuck us a Budget? I'm assuming about $700US as that's the going price on a haze?

If so, check this http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&Item=110461982184&Category=10171& +_trkparms=algo%3DLVI%26its%3DI%26otn%3D1 +http://cgi.ebay.com/Avatar-Speaker-Cabinet-G212H-with-2x12-speakers_W0QQitemZ110458954242QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item19b7dde202 it'll probably go a bit over budget, but yeah.
Guitars:
Gibson Les Paul Standard
Gibson Explorer New Century
Gibson RD Artist
Fender American Standard Telecaster

Amps:

Framus Cobra
Marshall JCM800 2203 - 1960A

Pedals:

Crybaby 535Q
Rockbox Boiling Point Overdrive
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#12
its too flabby and fuzzy on high gain for metallica. it would have almost enough gain if you used some very hot pickups. ultimately it does not have the sound you are after. the haze is more of a rock amp.