#1
Well it's not really a full build, I've just bought some parts and am going to clean them up and put them together. Here are some pics of what I have to work with:







I still need to get a pickup, bridge, tuners and all the electronic bits, which I will probably do in the week. The body is from a Westone Thunder I and is made of maple and the nexk is from a Westone Spectrum LX and is also maple with a rosewood fret board.

Here is where I start to need some help. The holes in the neck pocket dont quite line up with the ones in the neck, so what I was thinking of doing was getting some wood filler, filling the body in and drilling new ones, as the neck has threaded metal plugs in the screw holes. Would this work? and can anyone reccomend a decent wood filler to use.

I also have some questions about finishing, I plan to sand the body down and then use an oil finish (as my painting skills leave a lot to be desired), along with a dye (possibly green, but havn't really decided yet) and then to wax it, like I do with my Warwick. My question is would this work with Maple? and if so can anyone reccomend some dye and oil to use? I'm assuming I can just use Warwick wax for the waxing part.

Ok, last questions, can anyone reccomend a decent passive pickup to use with a fretless bass for around £40-£60? Also I have a spare hole drilled in the body between the volume and tone (it's not for an input, as that is further down) and as you can see there isn't enough room in the cavity for a preamp, so what should I put in there? I was thinking a killswitch, pointless I know, but it's better than just a hole. Does anyone know of anything more useful I could put in there?

Sorry for the wall of text, any help will be appreciated and I will post pics as I make progress.
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Last edited by faultyy at Nov 28, 2009,
#2
Do not use wood filler, it will not hold up when you drill the new neck holes. You need to plug the holes with wooden dowels. Gluing dowels in is much, much stronger than wood filler.

For the extra hole, why not have a switch to select between a couple different tone capacitors? That will mix up the flavors of sound you can get just a little bit.
#3
that body screams custom pickguard... maybe a full body pickguard

red body, full front pickguard in white

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#4
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#5
Thanks for the advice. Turns out the screw holes were actually in the right place... My eyesight isn't that good lol.

I'm pretty crap at painting and lack the patience, so I think I'm going to go for a dark oil finish. I was thinking about a pickguard, but have come to the conclusion that I'd probably just make a mess of it.

Thanks for the discount offer, I'm having a look at the parts I need now and will message you the list when I get paid tomorrow.

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Last edited by faultyy at Nov 29, 2009,
#6
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Thanks for the discount offer, I'm having a look at the parts I need now and will message you the list when I get paid tomorrow.


No worries. I was going to suggest Irongear pickups, but looking, they don't seem to make any Bass pups.

Is the wood good enough to do an oil finish? Just make sure you sand out all of the ingrained paint etc before you do it.
Then do a black stain, and then sand it off, which will highlight the grain, then add your colour and either oil it or clear coat it.
If you did decide to go for a paint finish, I can probably advise you on that if you wanted.

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Looks like yours is routed for P-Bass style pups?
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#7
Yep, it's routed for P Bass pickups, I was thinking about getting the Alinco one, but they don't have it in stock, so I'll probably go for the ceramic.

The wood doesn't look too bad, but I'll have a better idea once it is all sanded down. If I do end up painting it what paint should I use?
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#8
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The wood doesn't look too bad, but I'll have a better idea once it is all sanded down. If I do end up painting it what paint should I use?


They might have the Alnico by the time you want it...I can find out if you decide to go ahead.

Paint is a whole long subject Ultimate painting thread is a good place to start. Depending on how good you want the finish to be, will tell you what you should use.

Generally speaking, automotive paints are best. So from a local Halfords etc. You want a good primer, colour (they may be able to match one for you) and compatible lacquer.
You also want wet sanding materials a decent polish (AutoGlym super resin), buffing compound (Meguiars Scratch X 2.0) microfibre cloths, foam applicators etc.

When you sand the wood, try not to scratch it and take it to P240 for paint, or higher for an oil finish.
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#10
I don't have the tools or know how to cut a hole for another pickup, I'm also trying to keep costs down as this is my first build.
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#12
I think I'm going to go for oil, the wood looks ok so far, a bit plain, but that doesn't really bother me too much. I may sand the pain off the front of the head stock too and oil that aswell.
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No worries. I was going to suggest Irongear pickups, but looking, they don't seem to make any Bass pups.

Is the wood good enough to do an oil finish? Just make sure you sand out all of the ingrained paint etc before you do it.
Then do a black stain, and then sand it off, which will highlight the grain, then add your colour and either oil it or clear coat it.
?


Skeet, being the painting wizard you are, is that what they do to make flame maple look so 3D?
If so, after the Black stain, Do you just stain it with you color, then clearcoat, or what?

And TS, what type of wood is it?
And for Pups, I suggest nuthinbutruble8. Not sure if he makes bass pups, but it's worth a try.

What color are you looking at doing?


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Skeet, being the painting wizard you are, is that what they do to make flame maple look so 3D?
If so, after the Black stain, Do you just stain it with you color, then clearcoat, or what?


From what I hear. Not done it myself so can't take credit for that one.

Yeah, bung on some black or similar dark colour. Then sand it back so just teh grain is dark. Maybe do it again and sand back.
Then add your colour or colours, then clear it.

Then wet sand, then clear, then wet sand , then clear, then final wet sand and buff.
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And TS, what type of wood is it?
And for Pups, I suggest nuthinbutruble8. Not sure if he makes bass pups, but it's worth a try.

What color are you looking at doing?


It's maple, not flamed or anything, just standard. I'm trying to decide between just going for a natural, but quite dark finish or I might go for a green dye, something like this:

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#16
Would Ebony stain work for the black Skeet?
And and ALL maple body?
Holy shit, that thing's got to be heavy.


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Would Ebony stain work for the black Skeet?


One assumes that it is by name...black? Then yes. Don't really get much blacker than Ebony really
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Would Ebony stain work for the black Skeet?
And and ALL maple body?
Holy shit, that thing's got to be heavy.


I thought it was going to be a lot heavier than it is to be honest. Then again it may just feel light compared to my Warwick which weighs a ton
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#21
maple is a little heavy. not as much as people think. I have a Warwick with a flame maple body.

and for P-bass pickups, nobody needs anything except this- http://www.guitarcenter.com/Basslines-SPB-3-Quarter-Pound-P-Bass-Pickups-100311864-i1127441.gc

amazing pickup.
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#22
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maple is a little heavy. not as much as people think. I have a Warwick with a flame maple body.

and for P-bass pickups, nobody needs anything except this- http://www.guitarcenter.com/Basslines-SPB-3-Quarter-Pound-P-Bass-Pickups-100311864-i1127441.gc

amazing pickup.


Same price as the Amrstrong, but with the added bonus of being on the wrong side of the ocean.
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#23
Have almost finished sanding the body down and it's become quite obvious that a stain finish isn't the way forward as the body is made from quite a few pieces of maple, some of it has quite nice looking grain, but the majority of the centre of the body is very plain and the joins are obvious.

So it looks like I'll be painting it, can anyone reccomend some decent primer, paint and clear coat? Was thinking of going for a bright metallic green or purple. I also have an aluminium pick guard from a P-Bass that I plan to butcher to fit, if anyone has any ideas for shapes to get me started that would also be good.
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