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#1
Which one would be better for modern rock and why?
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#2
Vypyr, it's just better than the Valveking period. Unless of course you mod the VK, it's actually not that great of an amp.
#3
Quote by phlip999
Vypyr, it's just better than the Valveking period. Unless of course you mod the VK, it's actually not that great of an amp.


Under the cheap components, the Valveking is a great amp. Swap the OT (best mod for the VK, far more worth it than swapping the speaker) and you'll know what I mean.

That said, if you want a great variety of sounds in one amp, go for the Vypyr Tube, especially if you're buying new.

If you go for the Valveking, make sure to buy it used. It's better value for your money that way.
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#4
Quote by Raijouta
Under the cheap components, the Valveking is a great amp. Swap the OT (best mod for the VK, far more worth it than swapping the speaker) and you'll know what I mean.

That said, if you want a great variety of sounds in one amp, go for the Vypyr Tube, especially if you're buying new.

If you go for the Valveking, make sure to buy it used. It's better value for your money that way.


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#5
Speaking of the Vypyr, does anyone know if the 30 watt version has an acoustic simulation?
Thanks.
#7
Quote by denied
I was honestly not at all impressed by the valveking. Try the B-52 AT 100?

Or the B52 AT 112 for a cheaper alternative. Basically made for Rock and Metal but has stellar cleans also.
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#8
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Speaking of the Vypyr, does anyone know if the 30 watt version has an acoustic simulation?
Thanks.


It doesn't simulate an acoustic guitar, but it does simulate the fender twin reverb if you are looking for a clean tone.

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#9
Are you trying to run an acoustic through it?
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#10
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Or the B52 AT 112 for a cheaper alternative. Basically made for Rock and Metal but has stellar cleans also.



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#11
I'd go for Vypyr tube if you want a lot of sounds right there at your fingers without having to deal with a bunch of stompboxes.
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#12
th VK gets a lot of hate around here, and based on the new price, rightfully so.

that said, it's a decent amp, and can usually be found for a fair price used. i also like the vypyr tube... really boils down to what features you deem neccessary and what kind of deals you can find.
#14
It doesn't matter to me if the amp has onboard effects. I want good distortion and cleans.
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#16
I see you already have a Vypyr (judging by your sig). If you're looking for a big amp upgrade and are looking at the Valveking, it's not going to be huge.

I really like the cleans of my VK. The distortion is not great though. Lacks bass, tightness, and is a little bit flabby and fizzy if you have the gain boost on. You can eliminate some of these problems but it will cost you. Raijouta is right about everything he says to be honest. OT does make a huge difference apparently, but you can do more. E.g: OD, Speaker, Tubes, EQ.

If you can only buy new, however, i wouldn't recommend the VK. If you do get the VK though, get the 112. Far easier and cheaper to mod than the 212. You could get the head but it probably isn't necessary.
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#17
I am looking for a combo. Tight distortion is a must for me. I want something that will be decent out of the box, so sounds like the Valve King might not fit the bill for me. My current Vypyr is ok, but I don't really like the cleans. That is why I am interested in the tube version.
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#19
Quote by Banana Wedgie
Neither. I am gonna be unhelpful and say neither. And I'm not gonna say which one is good.


There was no need to post that comment if you aren't going to post another suggestion.

TS, I think as long as you don't need much versatility, go for the Valveking used.
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#20
Any reason why the valveking would be better? Most people seem to say the vypyr tube would be better for me? Again I am playing modern rock and grundge (Breaking Benjamin, Disturbed 3 Days Grace, but also need good cleans and overdrive for 3 Doors down) I have several pedals listed in my sig.
Ihor

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#21
Quote by Raijouta
Under the cheap components, the Valveking is a great amp. Swap the OT (best mod for the VK, far more worth it than swapping the speaker) and you'll know what I mean.

That said, if you want a great variety of sounds in one amp, go for the Vypyr Tube, especially if you're buying new.

If you go for the Valveking, make sure to buy it used. It's better value for your money that way.


What do you mean swap the OT/

What is OT.....I'm a little amptarded.
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#22
The OT is the output transformer. It's the component that puts the amp's signal to the speaker, basically.
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#23
So by swapping for a better one it produces a better sound or is just more reliable?
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#24
Ok what if we compare a modded valve king as said above to an untouched vypyr tube?
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#25
Just checked out the vavleking thread which has all and any info anyone could ever need with sound clips galore.
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#26
Tried the vypyr tube in Guitar Center for a few minutes. Seemed ok, but hard to tell if it was better than my regular vypyr. The store was closing and I ran out of time so I will have to go back.
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#27
Tried both amps again today. The Valve King did indeed sound muddy to me, so I took the tube Vypyr home.
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#28
Glad you came to a decision.

If you can only buy new, the Valveking is indeed worse than the Vypyr Tube, but I think both could stand to use some upgrades. I've heard the Vypyrs come with less-than-stellar speakers, and it could probably use better tubes.
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#29
I just spent about an hour playing through the tube Vypyr. The sound has a lot more depth to it compared to the solid state version. I couldn't find a deal on a Valve King. There were a couple on Ebay but with shipping it wasn't worth it. I'm going to keep this one until I find a deal on a XXX or the Randall RM50 I really want.
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Last edited by silver93t at Dec 6, 2009,
#31
Vypyr Tube 60 by a MILE. There is a reason you don't see a "Valveking" model on the Vypyr. It's because the amp sounds terrible imho.
#32
Quote by silver93t
Any reason why the valveking would be better? Most people seem to say the vypyr tube would be better for me? Again I am playing modern rock and grundge (Breaking Benjamin, Disturbed 3 Days Grace, but also need good cleans and overdrive for 3 Doors down) I have several pedals listed in my sig.

B52 AT 112= Better than Vypyr
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#33
Quote by TheEsupremacy
Vypyr Tube 60 by a MILE. There is a reason you don't see a "Valveking" model on the Vypyr. It's because the amp sounds terrible imho.


Oh, how wrong I could prove you if I had a working interface.
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#34
After an OT swap. Can a Valveking do metal without an overdrive pedal?
#36
Quote by silver93t
I just spent about an hour playing through the tube Vypyr. The sound has a lot more depth to it compared to the solid state version. I couldn't find a deal on a Valve King. There were a couple on Ebay but with shipping it wasn't worth it. I'm going to keep this one until I find a deal on a XXX or the Randall RM50 I really want.


Paramus or North Paramus? I'm here in Mahwah at RCNJ, so I try to get to the Paramus ones as much as I can I think these GCs are the two closest to each other in the world....maybe. I normally go to the East Brunswick one when I am home.

And so I am not spamming, yea, congrats.
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#38
hmmm, did the TS already get rid of it? I ask because his sig has a Peavey XXX in it, and not a Vypyr.
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#40
Quote by LaidBack
Paramus or North Paramus? I'm here in Mahwah at RCNJ, so I try to get to the Paramus ones as much as I can I think these GCs are the two closest to each other in the world....maybe. I normally go to the East Brunswick one when I am home.

And so I am not spamming, yea, congrats.


At least ya dont live in toms river where the nearest guitar center is an hour and 15 mins away(east brunswick)
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