#1
Is there a general opinion on which one is better? And does anyone know if any guitars come stock with Blackouts like many do with EMG's?
#2
I personally love my EMG's, though I've never played any guitars with Blackouts.

The only guitar that I can find that comes stock with them is the Ibanez MTM1 (Mick from Slipknot's guitar)
#3
there used to be esp models that came stock with blackouts, specifically the alexi laiho and roope latvala models. however they have since switched back to emgs.
#5
Don't know about guitars that have Blackouts as stock - I've never seen any.
In terms of which is ''better'', that's entirely subjective. Blackouts are ever so slightly lower output and have a slightly more natural, slightly less compressed tone. However they make ''metal'' Blackouts now that do have the same compression as most EMGs and even more output. Generall though, they sound so close to each other there's no really huge reason to pick one over the other except that the ever so slightly softer Blackouts are going to be slightly more versatile/useful with a slightly wider range of amps.

Bear in mind though that active pickups are only of any use if you use them in really high-end rigs, set up in very specific ways. They're a specialist item; frankly, if you have to ask about them, you don't need them. The majority of people who use active pickups would be better off using passives; why ESP put them in so many of their LTD models, I don't know. People are sheep and fall for the marketting, I suppose.
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#6
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Bear in mind though that active pickups are only of any use if you use them in really high-end rigs, set up in very specific ways. They're a specialist item; frankly, if you have to ask about them, you don't need them. The majority of people who use active pickups would be better off using passives.


That is a good point and I will keep it in mind, what are some good passive pups i should look at for metal?
#7
I had DiMarzio Evo's in my old RG and I play ALOT of metal and they were awesome. They just scream.....very high out put for a passive.....I have an EMG 81 in my new guitar(becasue thats what it came with) and TBH it just doesn't compare to the Evo's.

Its all about dynamics and with active the dynamics are jsut not where I want them to be. No matter how hard or soft I pick it comes out the same volume.
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#8
the schecter atx models (c-1 and v) come with seymour duncan blackouts as stock
they are killer axes
dunno what you mean about only using them with high end amps, I plugged one into a voxad15xl the other day and got countless amazing tones (in mine, and a few others opinions) they do pritty good cleans aswell, just roll back the tone knob, as on full it is rather distorted
can't say about the emgs though, never tried them!
#9
Quote by malmsteensolo
depends upon your style of music and also if you want active or passive pickups.


Blackouts are SD's active pickups just like EMG-HZ are EMG's passive pickups.

I've listened to both, and IMO I think the Blackouts sound better. However, I won't be changing the EMGs on my guitar since I rather save up for some Dimond Nitrox Head+Cab.

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That is a good point and I will keep it in mind, what are some good passive pups i should look at for metal?


For passive pickups, I like Saymour Duncans JB TB-4 /JB SH-4.

Also, from what I've been told, you should at least have a tube amp to take advantage of active EMGs or Saymour Duncan Blackouts.
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#10
It all depends on your style of music. If you want tighter, more thrashy sound go with the EMGs. If you want more lighter distortion and better cleans, go with the Blackouts.
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#11
EMG 85/60 pair is awesome in my guitar love em. the 60 gives good cleans unlike the 81 and 85
#12
First off, the Schecter ATX series comes with blackouts. They're also neck through with a satin finish, making them some of the best playing guitars I've ever used. Also, the blackouts have a much more mid-heavy sound and way more output. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BoSvdirNK2o&feature=PlayList&p=CC9C7BF51C297E56&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=11
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