#1
I am reasonably happy with my range of 6 strings now. I'm finding the need to go lower however, so it's time for a 7 string.

I've looked at (but not yet played) the Ibanez S7320, RG7321 and 1527. Are any of these valid ideas or should I just save up for the MusicMan JP7?

Other ideas, such as lesser known luthiers ( http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Jaden-Rose-7-String-Guitar-Original-Series-Carved-Top_W0QQitemZ170411000125QQcmdZViewItem?rvr_id=&rvr_id=&cguid=46268cd61250a0e20455e235fff94e7d ) are also welcome.

Thanks.
#2
i went for an unknown luthier when buying mine just for the fact that no one i know would have it lol but yea all those ibanez's are definatley valid choices
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#5
Quote by metal15head
I have an Ibanez S7320. its a pretty badass guitar. i would definetly recommend it.


Would/Do you use it for 6 strings songs also?

[quote="'[VictorinoX"]']7321 is not the way to go. I can only being to explain to you all the problems I had with mine.

Just a few would be helpful, please. Just so I know what to look out for.

Thanks.
#6
Quote by piop
Would/Do you use it for 6 strings songs also?


Just a few would be helpful, please. Just so I know what to look out for.

Thanks.


1. Almost no tension on the low B string. it's floppy as hell.
2. Pickups are WAAAAAY to muddy to even accurately pickup any low notes.
3. The neck warps way to easily, and after setting the guitar up, it only held tuning at a full step above standard tuning.
4. The tuners are identical to the ones used on the GIO series guitars. Very cheap, and they often come loose after only few string changes.

Now, one good thing about it is that the fourth switch position uses parallel connectivity on the rhythm pickup which makes for a really awesome solo-ing tone. But overall, it's more trouble than it's worth.
#7
Quote by piop
I am reasonably happy with my range of 6 strings now. I'm finding the need to go lower however, so it's time for a 7 string.

I've looked at (but not yet played) the Ibanez S7320, RG7321 and 1527. Are any of these valid ideas or should I just save up for the MusicMan JP7?

Other ideas, such as lesser known luthiers ( http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Jaden-Rose-7-String-Guitar-Original-Series-Carved-Top_W0QQitemZ170411000125QQcmdZViewItem?rvr_id=&rvr_id=&cguid=46268cd61250a0e20455e235fff94e7d ) are also welcome.

Thanks.


The RG1527 (like the one I am currently holding) is a damn nice guitar and my friend who has played a Jaden 7 string was practically jizzing on the keyboard as he spoke about it... but those are both quite pricey for a first 7 string, if you get a good one then an RG7321 should be all right; I haven't heard much bad stuff about them in general and the one I've played was pretty nice.
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#8
Quote by Zaphod_Beeblebr
those are both quite pricey for a first 7 string


That they are. I am looking for something a bit more upmarket though. Any thoughts on the JP7?

Also, thanks Victornio.
#9
I'd wait until you get a chance to play a few and then decide if 7's are actually for you before you dive head first into a big purchase.It'd suck to drop a lot of money on a 7 string just to find out a month or so down the line that you don't like them.That being said,the RG7321,when properly set up with a nice set of pickups and some new guts (pots,switch,jack,wiring,and shielding) is a very nice budget 7 string.Just be sure to try it out fist,since the quality can be sketchy,but the overall model quality is nowhere near as bad as Vic makes it out it be.I think he got a bad one and judges the whole line on that one lemon.Also,if you want a trem,then the 7 string S model you mentioned is a great choice.

You could also look at Carvin's in stock models,they occasionally sell fixed bridge MIA 7 strings for around $850.

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#10
Look for a used Ibanez RG7420/7620 or Ibanez S7620/7420 on ebay, there normally under £500 and they're all made in Japan.
#11
Quote by Pr0gNut
Informative post


I appreciate the advice. The solution for the 7321 you mentioned seems like a hell of a lot of work - especially for someone who has never modded before. Is this a correct assumption?

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Look for a used Ibanez RG7420/7620 or Ibanez S7620/7420 on ebay, there normally under £500 and they're all made in Japan.


Could you perhaps provide a little insight as to the pros and cons of these models?

Thanks very much.
#12
Quote by piop
I appreciate the advice. The solution for the 7321 you mentioned seems like a hell of a lot of work - especially for someone who has never modded before. Is this a correct assumption?


Could you perhaps provide a little insight as to the pros and cons of these models?

Thanks very much.


It isn't a lot of work if you can read a wiring diagram and know how to solder,but if you don't then it can be a daunting process.That being said,replacing the cheaper components on an RG7321 really makes the guitar sound like a completely different beast.Modding a cheaper 7 would give you a great platform to learn and grow on,then later on when you get a higher end 7 you'll have a great backup instrument for alternate tunings and so on.

The RG7620 is an MIJ 7 string Ibanez model with real DiMarzio pickups and an edge lo-pro trem.It's a really nice instrument,and they can be found on the used market for as cheap as $400.The fixed bridge version is called the RG7621,and the RG7420/7421 are a cheaper version of the 7620/7621 series.

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#13
Quote by Pr0gNut
It isn't a lot of work if you can read a wiring diagram and know how to solder,but if you don't then it can be a daunting process.That being said,replacing the cheaper components on an RG7321 really makes the guitar sound like a completely different beast.Modding a cheaper 7 would give you a great platform to learn and grow on,then later on when you get a higher end 7 you'll have a great backup instrument for alternate tunings and so on.

The RG7620 is an MIJ 7 string Ibanez model with real DiMarzio pickups and an edge lo-pro trem.It's a really nice instrument,and they can be found on the used market for as cheap as $400.The fixed bridge version is called the RG7621,and the RG7420/7421 are a cheaper version of the 7620/7621 series.


I'll keep the modding idea in mind. Thanks. So long as no specialist knowledge would be required I think I could handle it.

Of all the models you listed in the second paragraph, Ebay reveals a single RG7620. I take it they're no longer freely available, which is a shame. In direct comparison to the RG7620/7321/1527, how does the S7320 stand up?
#14
Quote by piop
I'll keep the modding idea in mind. Thanks. So long as no specialist knowledge would be required I think I could handle it.

Of all the models you listed in the second paragraph, Ebay reveals a single RG7620. I take it they're no longer freely available, which is a shame. In direct comparison to the RG7620/7321/1527, how does the S7320 stand up?


The S has a different body/body wood,a different trem,and a 22 fret neck instead of 24.As far as how it stands up,IMO it's a fairly nice mid-range 7 string.The pickups are a bit bland,but they can be easily swapped out for DiMarzio's or some other brand.

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#15
Quote by piop
That they are. I am looking for something a bit more upmarket though. Any thoughts on the JP7?

Also, thanks Victornio.


I haven't played the JP7 but I have played a JP6 and a couple of other Musicman guitars... they are pretty much flawless as long as you like the specs, really high quality guitars and the JPs, in my opinion, are very ibanez-y if you see what I mean so if you like Ibanez and the specs on the JPs then they're a pretty solid buy.
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#16
Quote by Pr0gNut
I'd wait until you get a chance to play a few and then decide if 7's are actually for you before you dive head first into a big purchase.It'd suck to drop a lot of money on a 7 string just to find out a month or so down the line that you don't like them.That being said,the RG7321,when properly set up with a nice set of pickups and some new guts (pots,switch,jack,wiring,and shielding) is a very nice budget 7 string.Just be sure to try it out fist,since the quality can be sketchy,but the overall model quality is nowhere near as bad as Vic makes it out it be.I think he got a bad one and judges the whole line on that one lemon.Also,if you want a trem,then the 7 string S model you mentioned is a great choice.

You could also look at Carvin's in stock models,they occasionally sell fixed bridge MIA 7 strings for around $850.


As much as I want to agree with Nutz here ^ I actually got one model in which the wiring ripped itself, and the neck was loose, and exchanged it for a brand new one. the exchange is the one that began giving me major problems. so, in actuality, it was two models I owned that gave me problems. That's the stem of my bias against them.
#17
[quote="'[VictorinoX"]']As much as I want to agree with Nutz here ^ I actually got one model in which the wiring ripped itself, and the neck was loose, and exchanged it for a brand new one. the exchange is the one that began giving me major problems. so, in actuality, it was two models I owned that gave me problems. That's the stem of my bias against them.

Bad luck I guess

I've played about 10 or so,and they've all been fairly nice guitars.Like I said,the quality is sketchy on them,so trying before buying is definitely a must....and I mean extensive play time,not just a 5 minute demo.Check the neck,frets,finish,intonation,electronics and so on.Try it in different tunings to see how it holds up,and a variety of amps as well.

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#18
Quote by Pr0gNut
Bad luck I guess

I've played about 10 or so,and they've all been fairly nice guitars.Like I said,the quality is sketchy on them,so trying before buying is definitely a must....and I mean extensive play time,not just a 5 minute demo.Check the neck,frets,finish,intonation,electronics and so on.Try it in different tunings to see how it holds up,and a variety of amps as well.


Basically steal it for two weeks, and play it using ALL your friends' equipment, then put it back and hope they don't notice.
#19
[quote="'[VictorinoX"]']Basically steal it for two weeks, and play it using ALL your friends' equipment, then put it back and hope they don't notice.

Exactly

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#20
Ok cheers. So it's highly probable that I won't be able to find an RG7620/7420 and S7420.
As a result I've a choice of S7320 (found locally for $800) / RG1527 (found for around $1200) / RG7321(found for $550) / or a MusicMan JP7.
I intend to try them out anyway, but would I make a steal on any of these? Thanks

Edit: [quote="'[VictorinoX"]']Basically steal it for two weeks, and play it using ALL your friends' equipment, then put it back and hope they don't notice.

LOL! I like it
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#21
JP7!!! Although that Jaden Rose guitar you linked would be very nice too. I've seen some of his work on Jemsite.
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