#1
Hey,

I plan on buying either a Bugera 6262 or 1990 as my next amp and i'm needing a cab to go with it. I've been set on a Framus FR212 for a while, but after seeing the Bugera 4x12 i'm having doubts. The Bugera cab is a fair bit cheaper and obviously has 2 more speakers for me to play with, but i'm assuming that due to the price, the Framus wither has better speakers or is put together better. It will be gigged with, in a Pop Rock band, but I also like to play a bit of Metal/MetalCore at home.

Which do you think is better for my needs?
#2
I'd go for the 2x12 Framus cab, as it has better quality speakers and it's much easier to lug around than a 4x12 cab.
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#3
Go with the Framus. Definetly the Framus.

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#4
Framus hands down
the stock bugera speakers a pretty crap imho
and i'm assuming the framus has v30s?
how much more is the framus cab?
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#5
Framus!!! Win!!!!
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#6
I'm going to say Framus just because I doubt the Bugera cabinet could match the build quality of the Framus cab. Plus, it'll be cheaper to change speakers
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#7
I don't think the Bugera cab "sucks", however it is made out of MDF, not plywood..still if you don't go on 6 month road tours, and upgrade the speakers you would most likely be pleased.

In the "Cheap 4x12 range" - Peavey Valveking, Peavey XL, Peavey Windsor "

I'm using a Marshall 1960/A with my Bugera 6260, sounds great.

I'm also picking up a very well built 2x12 from saxon-cabs (check ebay), with a slanted baffle,empty for less then $200. I'm putting a set of GWS in it. (F**K Celestion)
#9
Framus kicks the Bugera's ass.

Also, don't underestimate how awkward a 4x12 is - unless you've got a van/trailer they can be a huge hassle to load and move about regularly.
#10
the framus 212 = 250, bugera = 199?
i was stuck on this too,
but thomann had a bstock framus, that i pinched last nigth, £200 =D
so yeah.. £1 for a more practicle, far better sounding cab.. yes plz..
but yeah, you really are getting £50 more cab... ive heard bad stuff about the matching cabs, cos ive jsut bougth a bugera 333xl =]
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#11
+1 to the Framus, however I'm not convinced the 2x12 can support it. Got this from Thomann -


Framus FR212CB guitar cabinet - 2x 12" Celestion Vintage 30 speakers, 100 W mono into 8 Ohms, open or closed back via removable rear panel, 2 Celestion Vintage 30 Speakers, tolex covering. Dimension 76 x 47 x 28 cm. Weight: 22 kg, Color: Black
#12
^i doubht that info is right, seeing as 2 v-30's should be able to carry 120 watts
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#13
^Yeah a V30 is 60 watts, so the cab probably is 120 watts.

Also, from the Framus website:
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* Power rating: 120 watts
* 8 ohms
* 106dB
* 2 x 12" Celestion Vintage 30 Speaker (power rating 60W, 16 ohms, 100dB, frequency range 70-5000Hz, resonant frequency 75Hz)
* Speaker parallel connected
* 17 mm plywood housing
* Weight: 22 kg
* Dimensions (W/H/D): 0,76 x 0,47 x 0,28 m
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#14
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^i doubht that info is right, seeing as 2 v-30's should be able to carry 120 watts

This is right. Thomann got it wrong.
#15
The Framus cab completely destroys the Bugera. No contest what so ever.
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#16
Haha this is very scary! Was after an answer to the exact same question! Am in a Pop Rock band and play metalcore at home and am getting the Bugera 6262 but was indecisive about a Framus 2x12 or a Bugera 4x12 (which looks nice but has rubbish speakers i bet).

A further question to this post, does a 4x12 have any better sound/volume etc? over a 2x12 (imagining they have the same speakers/brand etc)

I want 2x12 ideally as i cba to lug a 4x12 up and down the stairs 3 times a week to b/p & gigs!
#17
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Haha this is very scary! Was after an answer to the exact same question! Am in a Pop Rock band and play metalcore at home and am getting the Bugera 6262 but was indecisive about a Framus 2x12 or a Bugera 4x12 (which looks nice but has rubbish speakers i bet).

A further question to this post, does a 4x12 have any better sound/volume etc? over a 2x12 (imagining they have the same speakers/brand etc)

I want 2x12 ideally as i cba to lug a 4x12 up and down the stairs 3 times a week to b/p & gigs!


Well obviously a 4x12 is going to disperse more sound but 2x12 cabinets still have that 'big' sound.
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