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#1
hey, i have a slight chance of getting a Marshall JCM 800 2204 and have acouple questions for anyone that knows anyhting bout these heads.

well it`s a 2204 which is the 50 watt. besides watts is there anything different between the 2204 and the 2203 ?

it looks like an earlyer model cause the power switches arn`t plastic like most Marshalls there the metal toggle switches.

it use to have 4 inputs i guess on the front. now it has 3 cause on was turned into a gain knob. the amps been hotrodded and has a ton of gain.

i can`t find a serial number anywhere though.

it`s 4 or 8ohms and 120/220/240 V mains.
#2
the main difference is head room.
how much?
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hey, i have a slight chance of getting a Marshall JCM 800 2204 and have acouple questions for anyone that knows anyhting bout these heads.

well it`s a 2204 which is the 50 watt. besides watts is there anything different between the 2204 and the 2203 ?

it looks like an earlyer model cause the power switches arn`t plastic like most Marshalls there the metal toggle switches.

it use to have 4 inputs i guess on the front. now it has 3 cause on was turned into a gain knob. the amps been hotrodded and has a ton of gain.

i can`t find a serial number anywhere though.

it`s 4 or 8ohms and 120/220/240 V mains.


K, first off, if it has metal toggle switches, that means its a Canadian model, which also means that: a) its more rare, b) it doesn't have a 16 ohm tap.

The 2203's typically have a voltage selector on the back so you can use them anywhere in the world by correcting the voltage.

Aside from that, there aren't any differences beyond wattage.
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K, first off, if it has metal toggle switches, that means its a Canadian model, which also means that: a) its more rare, b) it doesn't have a 16 ohm tap.

The 2203's typically have a voltage selector on the back so you can use them anywhere in the world by correcting the voltage.

Aside from that, there aren't any differences beyond wattage.


LOL well i am Canadian so that makes sence LOL, but your right, it doesnt have a 16 ohm tap, which means i`ll have to get my cab re wired cause it`s 16 ohms.
#6
well, they go for about 700 here in socal
if that helps
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#8
the 2204 is cheap down here
and for some reason, everyone has been going the same prices on the original 2203 AND the reissue
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#9
do not pay more than a grand for a jcm800

in western Canada, most of the JCM800s i see are in the $900-1000 range and even that is an bit of an overpayment

have some patience. there are a few that pop up for $800

warplane grey covered the differences of the 2203/2204.

the serial # should be stamped into the metal on the lower part of the rear panel. its hard to see, but it is there
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#10
^^ there NEVER that cheap here, i`ve seen 800`s go for 1200 to 1600 used here, and once one goes up for sale it`s gone like the next day

i payed like $1000 for my 900, i`ve never seen a 800 for less then a 900

trust me i`ve been looking. wish i had the $2000 and just order a JCM 800 2203KK
#11
All I'm gonna say is be careful buying modded JCM 800 which makes up most of what it out there at least older ones. You should have a tech look at them before you buy to make sure the mods were done well and haven't messed anything up. There are a lot of shitty DIY mods out there. Overall though the 2204 is my favorite 800 and at 50 watts are beastly loud and raw sounding.
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All I'm gonna say is be careful buying modded JCM 800 which makes up most of what it out there at least older ones. You should have a tech look at them before you buy to make sure the mods were done well and haven't messed anything up. There are a lot of shitty DIY mods out there. Overall though the 2204 is my favorite 800 and at 50 watts are beastly loud and raw sounding.


thanks for the heads up and ya beastly and raw is exactly how i said it`s tone was too LOL thats awesome, the 900 is really refined compared to the 800.

but if i buy this head i`m buying it off a music store that i buy EVERYTHING off of, so even if the mod was done bad they have my back and would get my head fixed without question and even give me a loner amp till my amp was done, there awesome like that.
#14
Doesn't sound like a 2204. Sounds more like a JCM800 range 1987

2204s had 2 inputs and master volumes.
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Doesn't sound like a 2204. Sounds more like a JCM800 range 1987

2204s had 2 inputs and master volumes.


oh it`s deff. a 2204 it`s stamp on the back 2204 50 watt RMS.

it had 4 inputs, 2 high and 2 low. and it does have a master volume, and now 2 pre gain knobs

one of the inputs have been turned into a gain knob and the other is for a foot switch.. not sure whats that for and 1 high input and 1 low input.
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oh it`s deff. a 2204 it`s stamp on the back 2204 50 watt RMS.

it had 4 inputs, 2 high and 2 low. and it does have a master volume, and now 2 pre gain knobs

one of the inputs have been turned into a gain knob and the other is for a foot switch.. not sure whats that for and 1 high input and 1 low input.


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http://www.jpstingrayguitars.com/JCM800_1.jpg

thats kinda like the one i`m looking at.

i do have pics of the one i`m looking at, just gotta put them on the computer.
#19
Hmm. That looks a bit odd. Any pictures of the insides?
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definitely does not look like a 2204. Idk why 2204 is stamped on the back, but that is most definitely a 1987. 2203 and 2204 were the models numbers designated for the master volume amps and that is definitely a 4 input, non master volume that looks like it's been modded for a master.
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#21
no pics of the insides.

in the back it has 3 pre amp tubes, 2 power tubes 2 round black things, don`t know what they are LOL a 3 transformers which one is just massive.

this is what i know of the amp.... it`s a 1983 Marshall JCM 800, it has the inspection sticker in it, dated 5.21.83

it has a metal tag on the back that says.. model 2204
#22
Quote by Slayerdeath
no pics of the insides.

in the back it has 3 pre amp tubes, 2 power tubes 2 round black things, don`t know what they are LOL a 3 transformers which one is just massive.

this is what i know of the amp.... it`s a 1983 Marshall JCM 800, it has the inspection sticker in it, dated 5.21.83

it has a metal tag on the back that says.. model 2204


Do what you can and get as many high-res pictures of as many angles as you can.
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#23
Hm... the tag thing is odd to me. the two black things are filter caps.

no clue why it has the 2204 model number on it unless someone changed the black panel, because just looking at pics, it's definitely a 1987. I'm 110% positive about it. The 2204 is single channel, that one obviously has a bright and normal and two channel volumes with no master volume (unless the one installed in the bright channel low input is a master).
#24
no the one knob in the low input is a gain, it also has another gain that was there from the factory and a master volume.

it does have a footswitch input right above the gain knob, no clue what it`s there for. i forgot to ask.

as for the pics they were better but i had to shrink them to upload them.

say it turns out to be a 1987 lets just say... i`ve never heard of a 1987? what is it.

and this 800 in the pic, is F**CKING brutal, like a pitbull that wants to rip you apart, it`s so heavy sounding and the low end is just intense. with the extra gain it`s just a crazy amp with ALOT of power, my 900 is loud and brutal but this 800 you can hear the power, it`s hard to expalin, but it`s an amazing amp for metal.
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Quote by Slayerdeath
no the one knob in the low input is a gain, it also has another gain that was there from the factory and a master volume.

it does have a footswitch input right above the gain knob, no clue what it`s there for. i forgot to ask.

as for the pics they were better but i had to shrink them to upload them.

say it turns out to be a 1987 lets just say... i`ve never heard of a 1987? what is it.

and this 800 in the pic, is F**CKING brutal, like a pitbull that wants to rip you apart, it`s so heavy sounding and the low end is just intense. with the extra gain it`s just a crazy amp with ALOT of power, my 900 is loud and brutal but this 800 you can hear the power, it`s hard to expalin, but it`s an amazing amp for metal.


I'm curious to see what mods were done to it, and who by.
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#26
huh... interesting. I've honestly never once heard of that getup before, could you get a pic of the front panel. It might be modded.

It's like a 2204 that has somehow seemed to have sprouted two inputs. In a way that wouldn't suprise me, if it was user added or what, because the input area actualy looks a little cramped (high/low sensitivity lettering) It's most definitely modded, just wonder how so.
#27
i`ll go to the store tomarrow and see if i can find out about the mods in the amp. and see if i can take more pics of the back and all the knobs and stuff. i returned the head today so i don`t have access to it right now. ya the store i go to is awesome they let me take pretty much anything home that i wanna try.

there doing something to the amp tomarrow to get it ready to sell and i have 1st dibs on it.
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Quote by Slayerdeath
i`ll go to the store tomarrow and see if i can find out about the mods in the amp. and see if i can take more pics of the back and all the knobs and stuff. i returned the head today so i don`t have access to it right now. ya the store i go to is awesome they let me take pretty much anything home that i wanna try.

there doing something to the amp tomarrow to get it ready to sell and i have 1st dibs on it.



Yeah man, if you like the amp, who cares what model it is, just buy the damn thing.

Worry about the mods and model number later.
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#29
All I know is that you are a Slayer fanatic, and Slayer used at least 800's if not a modded 800. Granted not all mods are the same. Theorectically, with your B.C. Rich, you should really nail the Slayer tone, probably more so than your 900.

If you get some good confirmation on the mods and enjoy the sound I say trade the 900 and cash for it.
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All I know is that you are a Slayer fanatic, and Slayer used at least 800's if not a modded 800. Granted not all mods are the same. Theorectically, with your B.C. Rich, you should really nail the Slayer tone, probably more so than your 900.

If you get some good confirmation on the mods and enjoy the sound I say trade the 900 and cash for it.


HAHA ya landon thats what i`m probly gonna do, i LOVE LOVE LOVE my 900 and seriously don`t wanna get rid of it... but to get this 800 i`m gonna have too

but ya i`m really tryin to nail the Slayer sound, Kerry used JCM 800 2203`s i don`t know if they were modded though, i know his sig amp is based off his 800 with his 10 band EQ settings built into the amp and a noise gate and crazy amounts of gain, i don`t know if his org. 800 is modded to the tits like his sig 800 KK is.

but ya i have the Kerry King signature V the MXR 10 band EQ, i have the Kahler 2315 pro Kerry King signature bridge on order should be here next week and now if i can get my hands on a Marshall JCM 800, i`ll pretty much have it all. King uses acouple other things too like a cry baby and Zakk wyld cry baby, he even has a signature Q-zone, but i don`t know if he uses a Q-zone on stage or not?? but i`m not much into pedals so i`m not getting those yet anyway.

but if i get this 800 my 900 will be missed.
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this is the JCM 800 i`m looking into buying... someone changed it to white it use to be black.

Check the back to see if it has a 4th extra preamp tube.
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#33
Just get the 800. If u miss the 900 that much in the future u can sell the 800 and get another one
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#34
HAHA if i can at all afford it, i will get the 800, if i ever sell this 800 it`ll be for the Marshall JCM800 2203KK HAHA

but ya, wish i could keep the 900, be pretty sweet to use both heads on stage, the 800 for the raw power and the 900 for the screamin leads. with 2 4X12`s talk about amp porn HAHA, that`d be one impressive stack
#35
If it has the sound you want, go for it. Sell the 900 first though, because store trade-ins are always a complete rip off.
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If it has the sound you want, go for it. Sell the 900 first though, because store trade-ins are always a complete rip off.


well the store knows my head, i am selling it right now, but the store said they give me $700 for my 900, i paid 900 plus tax so $1017 over a year ago from the same store
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Quote by Slayerdeath
well the store knows my head, i am selling it right now, but the store said they give me $700 for my 900, i paid 900 plus tax so $1017 over a year ago from the same store


Keep the 900, its at least original and I wanna know this - is it a good amp?

There is a 1996 one going for liek 1/2 t3h price of it new at a local store....
#39
damn computer i had a whole thing typed up to answer your question and my computer locked up.

but, as for the 900, i love mine to death. it`s so versital, it does almost anything you want it to do, but i don`t care about that, it does what i want very nicely and thats Thrash.

i`ve giged with this amp MANY times for over a year, it`s NEVER not once failed me. it has awesome Marshall tone and it`s built like a tank.

has awesome cleans, not that i care LOL, but it`s got em.

ya i HIGHLY recommed the JCM 900, i`ve also recommened the 900 to AC/DCLandon and he ended up buying a JCM 900 combo amp, i`m pretty sure he loves it.

also pick up the MXR 108 10 band EQ it`s an amazing EQ and makes a world of differents on the 900.

but just take your guitar and head on over to the music store and try that 900 out and see if you love it, if you do, buy it.
#40
Quote by Slayerdeath
damn computer i had a whole thing typed up to answer your question and my computer locked up.

but, as for the 900, i love mine to death. it`s so versital, it does almost anything you want it to do, but i don`t care about that, it does what i want very nicely and thats Thrash.

i`ve giged with this amp MANY times for over a year, it`s NEVER not once failed me. it has awesome Marshall tone and it`s built like a tank.

has awesome cleans, not that i care LOL, but it`s got em.

ya i HIGHLY recommed the JCM 900, i`ve also recommened the 900 to AC/DCLandon and he ended up buying a JCM 900 combo amp, i`m pretty sure he loves it.

also pick up the MXR 108 10 band EQ it`s an amazing EQ and makes a world of differents on the 900.

but just take your guitar and head on over to the music store and try that 900 out and see if you love it, if you do, buy it.


I will. Thanks man.

But why do you need the "MXR 108 10 band EQ"? What does it do, even?
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