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Today in one of my classes, I started my presentation on Satanism, and for the Culture sction of the project, I talked about Hard Rock and Metal and the many bands being acused of practicing Satanism (and if anyone's aksin, yes...I know the difference between LaVeyan and Theistic Satanism)

I was just in the middle of talking about Ozzy and Sabbath when the bell rang, and the teacher (who is also a pastor, but far from a strict orthodox one) asked why Satan is such a strong ifluence on metal.

Now, as big a metal head I am, I honestly have never sat down to think of an answer, and short on time and on the spot, the best I could honestly come up with were to fit the darker, heavier sound of Metal and Hard Rock, and like what Kerry King says on the topic, Satan just makes for better songwriting than Jesus does, which I don't deny that for a sec.

So, I ask my fellow headbangers, What do you all think Satan's inspiration in metal comes from?

*NOTE* Yes, this is for a religion class, and no...I do NOT Want this to turn to an all out religious debate, this topic is simply something we all love and hold dear, Heavy ****in' Metal.
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#5
Well, basically it adds you cool points for being the rebel and the controversial dude.
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#6
I believe it actually has something to do with the tri tone, or the devils note. The movie Metal: A Headbanger's Journey explains it better.
#7
It's basically like Chuck Norris.

Satan can do all the coolest thing (like Mr. Norris)

Jesus on the other hand, he did some alright junk in his days,
but I don't recall massive rock and metal jams being dedicated to him.
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Satan's Almighty Penis sound kvlter than Jesus's Almighty Penis
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#10
They may sound like a joke band but they really aren't that bad
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Im the devil I love METAL!!!
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Satan in music has its roots in blues, the story of the crossroads. Guy dissappears comes back a while later playing guitar like no-one has seen before, rumour has it the guy made a deal with the devil, after recording a few songs the guy dies in mysterious circumstances(poisoned i think).
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Im the devil I love METAL!!!

I believe that its "I'm the metal" thank you very much.

But you have to admit, satan/demons/hell all offer more interesting, exciting material to write about. Its the same reason that people would usually prefer watching House on Haunted Hill over Teletubies (At least I would).
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But you have to admit, satan/demons/hell all offer more interesting, exciting material to write about. Its the same reason that people would usually prefer watching House on Haunted Hill over Teletubies (At least I would).


Telletubbies are pretty gr1m.
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I believe that its "I'm the metal" thank you very much.


Is it really? :S
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#17
Well since Heavy Metal signifies power a lot of the time, or something exciting (a powerful piece of music), be it shredding, heavy riffing, or a beautiful compilation of instruments, it can easily be related to having a darker force linked to it, due to its complexity and depth in comparison to the interpretation power of the typical mind.

Many people who aren't culturally adapted to being open to Metal think of us (metalheads) as crazy or suicidal (Giving stereotypes to anything that has a double bass beat...), and these can be considered as ways of Satan, or demonic possession or some random crap.

Since Satanism (and its related topics) is always fought by other churches and considered as something that has "powerful" or "tempting" ways, it can easily be linked to Metal.

Probably not the best analogy, but think of it like sex before marriage. Most religions are against that idea, and you are considered a sinner if you do so, however there is something mysteriously (not really mysterious, it's just nature, but in the eyes of priests...) powerful that drives us to want to engage in it anyway. In the same way, we enjoy speed, we enjoy the thrill, we enjoy the adrenaline, and so metalheads get that same effect out of Metal.

Thus, the mysteriousness (or epicness) of complex/fast/rebellious music is linked to "the darkest possible idea", which in this case would be Satanism.
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i gotta try that one day...
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#21
Well Satan in the symbolic sense is used as a representation of sin, which leads to self-satisfaction. A kind of controlled self-ism results, which is in keeping with the ideologies of most metal artists.

Often Satan is used as a symbol for anti-religious sentiments, again in keeping with many metal artists. Behemoth, for example, are quite against organised religion, and use Satan as a representation of this.

Finally there is Satan on the theistic level. Few bands engage in this sort of belief, but one is Deathspell Omega, who are in my opinion the best black metal band out there. Here is an interview with them.
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#22
metal is about power, rebellion, and expressing vitality, satan for many is an image or symbol of those things, in that bible book satan goes out of his way to be a BAMF by sticking his "throbbing life force" in gods face and gets to be the king of a big pit of fire and tortured souls because of it

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Metal isn't mainstream music so when you listen to it it is in a small way rebellion, this fits in with the whole satanic image which is a rebellion from the religions that a lot of people grew up in. For example Tom Araya from Slayer is a Catholic.
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#24
it's just because it's fun to sing about. when i write lyrics they are usually more on the satanic / occult / drugs side of things, even though i'm a pagan who's far more into drinking than drugs.

+ it fits the music.

i doubt bands like sabbath and slayer where saying "well, satanism represents sin and excess, so lets sing about that." they were just saying "hey, there's some cool lyrics."
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It varies from band to band really.Satanism is about thinking for yourself which alot of bands can relate to.Some are deeply interested in the occult which shows in their lyrics..Then you got morons like Glen Benton however.For some it's merely shock value (lame) yet for some it is their beleif in what seems to be right for them.Alot of bands are just condeming religion due to the bullshit it causes and that is often tied with Satanism,which is rediculous.The actual sound of the music is the opisite of what most religious people would consider nice.It is chaotic and dark,again tied with Satan.Alot of artists see Satan as a leader and free thinker which could be seen as the oppisite of the religious sheep.Basically,no one should be making rules on how to live YOUR life and metal artists express this beleif.

It is alot deeper than just being "bad ass".
#26
Black Sabbath were pretty spiritual when they started and they wrote songs warning about the dangers of the occult. Bands like Venom and Slayer I think, were doing something different, writing satanic lyrics for shock, or because they sound "cool".
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Well Satan in the symbolic sense is used as a representation of sin, which leads to self-satisfaction. A kind of controlled self-ism results, which is in keeping with the ideologies of most metal artists.

Often Satan is used as a symbol for anti-religious sentiments, again in keeping with many metal artists. Behemoth, for example, are quite against organised religion, and use Satan as a representation of this.

Finally there is Satan on the theistic level. Few bands engage in this sort of belief, but one is Deathspell Omega, who are in my opinion the best black metal band out there. Here is an interview with them.

This. Except for the part about Deathspell Omega, because the best black metal out there is obviously Burzum.
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I'm pretty sure all the philosophical theories about BM is just an afterthought. I don't think hellhammer and Venom cared to think that deeply about their music.
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#30
Satan has a certain mystique built around him in Western culture. The people making metal were probably morbidly fascinated by such a figure after growing up with Christianity being the norm around them.

In a sense, I feel it started more as a statement against status quo. Some take it more seriously. As an atheist looking at theistic satanism, I can see one appeal to Satan: Satan is a religion of power and elitism, Christianity builds itself as a shelter for the weak. Which would you rather have? Faith in your own power, or faith in a false power masquerading as a shelter for the meek?
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Lucifer in man is man's natural desire for rebellion. Metal and rock was founded around the idea of rebellion. So now metal + Lucifer (I'll leave 'Satan' for the humanistic pieces of shit Lavey followers) just seems the norm as it has been in tandem for decades.
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Woe to you on earth and sea for Santa sends his gifts with wrath, for he knows the time is short, let him hath understanding who uses credit for these gifts, for it is a human number,its number is $6.66
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#35
Satan's Fall is the greatest song ever.
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This. Except for the part about Deathspell Omega, because the best black metal out there is obviously Burzum.


Burrrrzum.

Lol. Seriously DsO's newer stuff is utterly groundbreaking though. Si Monvmentvm onwards is flawless.
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#38
Often-chaotic and dissonant nature of metal generally is an antithesis to ordered and harmonious church music. As a genre of standing against the prevalent institutions, and as a genre that promotes individualism metal and Satanism share common ground.

This is apart from the gimmickry and theatrics that are part of any entertainment type.

Everything else has already been said really

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He has better weed than Jesus.
Dyer's Eve is awesome, and has an abnormally large penis, which doesn't act as any hinderance to his everyday life despite its freakishly large size.
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