#1
Ok, me and a few friends were riding home today, and my one friend got into a discussion about mathcore. He said that this one song we were listening to (Procession of Regression - Lovehatehero) and he said the breakdown at the end was mathcore.

He's claiming that because it's counted in 7/4, which is the same as a measure of 4/4 and then a measure of 3/4, that makes it mathcore. The song also has a random tempo change, which makes it more mathcore.

Now pit, what really is mathcore? I always though mathcore was pretty much trying to make music as technically difficult as possible, and to do weird time signatures like 77/32 or something like that.

I mean if a few tempo changes and different time signatures is mathcore, than half of my band music is mathcore. And we're doing Christmas music now.

Discuss.
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I'd call it Prog Metal, but I guess its a faster, heavier, more complex (timing-wise) version. Or it could be one of the endless -core genres.
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#4
Probably poly rhythms and poly meter
I have heard minus the bear described as math rock before though so i have absolutely no idea

urbandictionary maybe?
#9
"Mathcore" generally refers to hardcore/metallish bands whose songs are in odd time signatures and often change said time signatures or tempos, ie Dillinger Escape Plan.

But you also have other bands playing in odd time signatures, like Tool, and even Metallica and Soundgarden at times.
#10
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NMme06iJuog&feature=related

Kind of like that, except not really, mathcore/rock usually sucks more
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#11
The term "math rock" has existed for decades, previously being applied to bands like Rush mostly as a joke. Of course that designation has been updated for bands like Meshuggah ("math metal") and The Dillinger Escape Plan ("mathcore").

As far as I'm concerned, it's not a genre. It's a label ("BUT A GENRE IS A LABEL HURHURHUR"), but not a genre.
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#12
If one instance of 7/4 is mathcore, Thrice is a mathcore band.



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So if you see a song with 3 or 4 tempo changes, and some parts in 7/4, would you or wouldn't you label it mathcore?
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So if you see a song with 3 or 4 tempo changes, and some parts in 7/4, would you or wouldn't you label it mathcore?


Nope.
#18
I thought it would be math lyrics.
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#19
It is core-wh0res splitting hairs and getting really defensive when the genre is misplaced on a band as usual.
#21
It's my favourite genre in music

Misery signals = FTW Mathcore lol
Prgressive Hardcore/metal.
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#27
The basic idea is that it the complex time signature change and use of overlapping time signatures make it more like math than metal, it is a jokingly used term.
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#33
Usually when you can't tell what the fuck is going on in the music, it could be defined as mathcore.
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